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 thewhitrbbit
post Yesterday, 02:04 AM
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I am trying to produce a multi boot hard drive for work, and it's driving me crazy.

I need to have two partitions. Partition A has DOS for Norton Ghost and the second partition has to have Dell Image Direct. (It's a flavor of Windows PE).

The boot manager is BootIt NG.

I have had no success with this. I've created the dos partition, and copied all the dos files, but I don't have any way to make the partition bootable.

I've tried to use PE2USB to set up the second partition and swap out the cd image (I've found this works and I've swapped bart pe out and erd commander im, just renaming the file).

I would love to be able to get this to work, but I'm not sure where to go from here. PE2USB doesn't seem to work, it always says it can't read the boot sector.

Thank you for any help, this site has already helped me produce a great USB drive.
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 jaclaz
post Yesterday, 07:57 AM
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The good news is that you don't need BootIt NG, and that you do not need two partitions. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

PEtoUSB.exe is designed for a single partitioned drive/stick.

PE2USB.CMD is a batch file, it can be modified/fixed eaisly or it's steps can be reproduced manually easily.

    Ten little questions....
  1. Which one are you using?
  2. How did you setup the disk (meaning what you used to partition/format the disk?
  3. Is it a USB external hard disk?
  4. How big is the hd?
  5. How big is the PE build?
  6. How big is the DOS image with GHOST?
  7. Can you produce with ANY ways you use a working PE?
  8. If yes, which files you have in ROOT of the partition(s)?
  9. Are you using "normal" /minint or CD-like /I386 structure?
  10. Can you use SERVER 2003 SP1 files?


Please also explain HOW you did partition the HD (two primaries, one primary + one logical volume inside extended) and the reasons why you need (or think you need) two separate partitions.


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 thewhitrbbit
post Yesterday, 04:47 PM
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Which one are you using?

I am using PE2USB.CMD because I run it in a CMD prompt.

How did you setup the disk (meaning what you used to partition/format the disk?

The drive is set up the following: BootIt NG partition, then 1 40gig FAT32 partition for ghost (it also stores the ghost files themselves) then a 70 gig FAT32 partition that stores the Dell Image Direct and the .WIM images

Is it a USB external hard disk?

Yes

How big is the hd?

110GB

How big is the PE build?

150MB

How big is the DOS image with GHOST?

3MB

Can you produce with ANY ways you use a working PE?

Only on a flash drive can I do a working PE

If yes, which files you have in ROOT of the partition(s)?

I use PE2USB so it's a bart pe image, but if I switch the image, I can load anything using the ramdisk.

Are you using "normal" /minint or CD-like /I386 structure?

See above

Can you use SERVER 2003 SP1 files?

I have access to everything from Windows 95 to Windows 7 Beta.


I partitioned as two primary hard drives. I think I need 2 because I need one that boots into DOS since GHost runs in DOS, and I need a second one that will boot the ISO image of the Dell Image Direct tool.

Our University is now using .WIM for re-imaging instead of ghost but some of the older computers still need images that are in ghost format.
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 jaclaz
post Yesterday, 08:26 PM
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OK, let's try making it "simple", OK?

Under a 2K/XP/Server 2003, clear the the partitions with Disk Management.

Make sure you install the "normal" 2K/XP/2003 MBR, if needed use MBRFIX or MBRWIz or a similar utility:
http://www.sysint.no/nedlasting/mbrfix.htm
http://mbrwizard.com/


Make a new, primary partition, 40 Gb, if that's a suitable size for you.
Make a new Extended Partition for the rest of the disk
Make one (or more as needed) Logical Volume(s) inside extended.
Format primary as FAT32.
Format Logical Volume(s) as you wish.
Make sure the Primary is active.
Beeblebrox is a nice tool to verify it:
http://students.cs.byu.edu/~codyb/

Copy to the Primary:
- NTLDR
- NTDETECT.COM
- BOOT.INI <-make sure you have at least two entries in it, it doesn't matter at the moment that they are valid ones, make one invoking grub4dos, the one here:
http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/...all.htm#method3
will be allright
-grldr
-menu.lst <-for the moment the standard one from the downloade package will be allright:
http://nufans.net/grub4dos/
-IO.SYS
-MSDOS.SYS
-COMMAND.COM
-grub.exe

Try booting from external HD, you should be able to get to the BOOT.INI choices (choose grub4dos).
Grub4dos should load it's menu, by choosing entry "find and load IO.SYS of Windows 9x/Me" you should be able to boot to the dos prompt.
run grub.exe, you should be back to it's menu, this time choose entry "find and load NTLDR of Windows NT/2K/XP", you should be back to the BOOT.NI choices.

Add the GHOST files, autoexec, etc. and verify that it works.

Play a bit with the choices, then read the Guide:
http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/Grub4dos.htm

AFTER having read the guide:

If the PE image is already (or is "convertible" in) a Ramdisk loadable one, it is up to you if it's the case of using the (hd32) mapping:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5041
or to expand it's contents in a /minint structure, either on the first partition or on the logical volume in Extended.

Add to menu.lst an entry finding and loading SETUPLDR.BIN and you should be OK.

You will later want to remove from menu.lst unused entries, leave just the grub4dos entry in BOOT.INI, etc. and/or use another of the methods to load grdr, including that of rewriting the bootsector of the primary partition from DOS using Bootpart:
http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm
then booting normally to DOS and later call grub.exe

If you need help, post your doubts. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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 thewhitrbbit
post Yesterday, 11:51 PM
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Hey

Thank you. So far I've had 90% success.

Windows XP refused to format the 40GB partition as fat32, so I reduced it down to 500MB (since it's just dos files) and made a huge extended partition to store the ghost files and wims on.

I was able to install Grub4dos and I was able to get the boot menu, and go back and 4th between boot.ini and grub's list.

However, if I tried to do IO.SYS, it would go crazy and the floppy drive would spin and it would fail. Was I supposed to use an IO.SYS from Windows 98?

I'm off work, so I'll resume work tomorrow.
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