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> First experiences with Windows 7, What do you think so far?
 
 Nuno Brito
post Jan 17 2009, 04:11 PM
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Well.. it's been fun trying out the new beta from Microsoft and so far I can't say that it hasn't been an interesting experience.

The first step was getting the ISO from the Microsoft site.

The second step was the install. Just needed to be a bit to careful to select the new install rather than the upgrade.

After the install came the part where we're asked to add the beta serial key and of we go with the experimental steps.

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The first thing I noticed was the fact that the virtualbox addons refused to work. This was solved by choosing to run the program in compatibility mode for Vista. Then it was only a matter of changing the network and sound type to get everything working as expected (tutorial - http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=6791)

Funny thing because this windows didn't recognized the audio driver and went online to see if there were any Audio drivers available. In all my years of windows experience I had never seen this sort of tool function in previous windows editions but was really happy to see something like this working.

It's almost as good as Ubuntu..

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Looking at the overall size I see that this windows is using around 7Gb worth of disk space. This is still a lot of room to be used by any OS but at the very least it is a serious improvement when comparing to the default size used by Vista.


The overall UI is a lot more "squared", gives a more professional feel & touch to all the windows and controls.

IE8 is included and includes less annoying phone-home features at the startup configuration, which is also an improvement.

There is a tool called "snipping tool" that allows to cut&paste small portions of the desktop onto an image file. It's a simple tool and works good.

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Windows 7 also comes with a Recovery Environment, I incidentally got acquainted on the reboot process after shutting down the virtual machine.. It was a bit annoying since there was nothing wrong with freshly installed OS but the diagnostic tool still insisted in waiting a very long time to finish all testings.

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The start (orb) menu is also changed to the better (or at least I think this way), the tools available on the menu are much orientated towards people who work seriously with their machines.

For example, the run command is no longer hidden away and even Power Shell comes installed by default.

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And these are my initial thoughts for this new OS, I'm running from a Virtual Machine at 1Gb of RAM and windows 7 is running at 432Mb. I must say that the dev team really seems to be putting a lot of good effort to produce a valuable OS.

(IMG:http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5048/capturaecraua2.png)

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So, what's your opinion so far?

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 MedEvil
post Jan 17 2009, 04:16 PM
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My opinion? More pictures! (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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 Nuno Brito
post Jan 17 2009, 04:58 PM
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Ok, added a simple screenshot to the first topic.

It seems that now your programs are grouped together but don't show any text labels. I find it a bit more confusing to work with. Under XP/Vista I usually placed the Start Menu as a bar on the left to keep all programs visible and accessible at the click but this sort of thing can be disabled to show the text labels as before under the properties menu.

There is also no more gadget side bar on the left by default, guess the fashion didn't picked up much popularity.

Explorer by default hides the menu options, you need to manually select them. Was a bit difficult to figure this, I was trying to find the option to connect a share as drive, but I guess most users won't need to know this "feature" exists.

The desktop wallpaper you see on the screenshot it's a bit different from the one that comes by default. It's a bit more difficult to find the place where themes can be changed (still think the XP menu is simpler and straight to the point)

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 MedEvil
post Jan 17 2009, 06:18 PM
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By biggest complaint about Vista was not the look or the size or the hideous slow pace, but that fantastic invention that the menu structure was not identical to the folder structure.
Spend once about 30 min to find a setting to correct, which i already knew where it had to be.
Boy was i happy after that, that none of my computers runs Vista. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I give W7 that it looks nice, but if you tell me it looks professional, i object.
Those new menus are already bad by themselfs, but that they constantly reconfigure themselfs makes them worst.

From a professional solution i expect, that i can use menus while my brain is on autopilot or to use them blindfolded, if you prefer this analogy.

Instead of yet another skin, maybe someone in Redmont should think about a new and better GUI? Not just variations of the old one. Which was perfect from the start, imo.

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 Nuno Brito
post Jan 17 2009, 06:31 PM
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Well.. I was avoiding to formulate any opinion about their choice of available skins.. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But, yes. The XP way of doing things is still simpler from a sense of doing things in complete auto-pilot since it been that way that you've been doing them for years, but the younger generations are already using Vista by default on their machines.

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I give W7 that it looks nice, but if you tell me it looks professional, i object.
Those new menus are already bad by themselfs, but that they constantly reconfigure themselfs makes them worst.
I meant when comparing to Vista, not XP Pro.. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Windows 7 "seems" more serious and ready for work, also, UAC isn't as annoying as before.

I really like the orb menu (also did on Vista), there isn't anything working this good on linux (yet).. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) KDE4 is organized a bit like MS is doing but it's not really very good to use at all.

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post Jan 17 2009, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (Nuno Brito @ Jan 17 2009, 07:31 PM) *
I really like the orb menu (also did on Vista), there isn't anything working this good on linux (yet).. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) KDE4 is organized a bit like MS is doing but it's not really very good to use at all.

Yes the Linux guys can do a lot of great things. An intuitive GUI isn't one of them! (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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 Sonny
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Windows 7 does seem to be a little more stable (than Vista)
I also found the hardware detection & install to be very good,
this is the first OS to correctly install all of my hardware.
I miss the "Edit>Invert Selection" in windows explorer though
Also Daemon Tools still won't work (Likely never will)
Still it seems a goood improvement over Vista.
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Hi there, I stumbled upon this page via Google so prepare for an annoying n00b question :

I am all impressed with "Windows XP SP3" stripped "slim" with Nlite, then enhanced with BashRat's driver packs.

I just love it

It's stable, fast, compatible, and works a treat.

I see all this "Vista" and "Windows 7" business and never think twice about it.

But you seem very impressed with it. I wonder, if there is already a great OS why "upgrade" ?

"XP SP3" versus "Vista" versus "Win7"

It's funny you should mention "Ubuntu Linux", because there are now so many "flavors" of Windows to choose from, it's becoming a tough choice like browsing Linux distros!

Also, you mentioned this "tool" which takes a portion of the desktop and makes it into an image? "Print Screen" button on my keyboard has been doing that for many years!

I wonder if these new operating systems just have us doing that same things we have always done, only now they require much more resources and are less compatible??????????????

Sell me on Windows 7 (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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 Galapo
post Feb 9 2009, 10:29 PM
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I loaded Windows 7 into a VMWare Server virtual machine last week, and assigned only 400mb of ram. I'm quite impressed how well the OS runs with such little ram.

I still don't like the start menu and haven't found a way so as to "expand" programs menu, rather than having the link simply open on the start menu and then having to usually use scrolling. It can be a bit tedious.

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 MedEvil
post Feb 9 2009, 11:07 PM
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I would be interested if there is a way to disable the most annoying improvement ever.
The fact that real folder structure and presented folder structure are not indentical!

Havn't spend so much time on a command prompt since good old DOS times, as i did in a broken vista! (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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