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 LiveXP -- Anything & Everything, Look only Post #1 and Last Posts of this topic
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post Dec 31 2008, 10:51 PM
Post #971
Lancelot
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WELCOME Galapo smile.gif

I try to do my best when you are away smile.gif

Well as you asked most important thing,

QUOTE (Galapo @ Jan 1 2009, 12:19 AM) *
I'm now back from holidays! Sorry that I was unable to check in as I originally thought I may have been able to.

Lancelot, thanks for all that you've done in my absence!

Now, is there any developments that I need to be made aware of?

Thanks,
Galapo.


It is better to answer your question here smile.gif

The top1 important developement made with bootsdi and wimpack scripts

Issue is Vista32sp1 (JonF's BootSDI problem topic, which started from 911 and continued later with boot-land.net)
There are 2 sub branch of the issue:

1) vdk.exe - formatntfs
description: After formatting a mounted image with ntfs and copying files, than unmounting vista32sp1 dont let vdk.exe to load again.
Simply, after first boot of vista32sp1, "vdk.exe - format ntfs" works only 1 time:

Solution: After lots of lots of trials and searches (very long topic) i found out that vdk.exe can work in different folder so no need to boot again.
Simply,
after using C:\vdktest1\vdk.exe to "mount-format"
C:\vdktest2\vdk.exe to "mount-format" works too smile.gif

so i change bootsdi and wimpack scripts to copy vdk files on a temp folder with name "%year%%month%%day%%hour%%minute%%milisecond%"
This solved the issue smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif


2) Vista NTFS
vista NTFS is different than XP NTFS, which cause less free space when formatted with vistantfs. I couldnt find to format with xpntfs under vistahostos, this especially effects wimpack script directly so .wim files cant be copied to .vmdk (not enough free space)
so i add FAT32 option to wimdisk script, and selected as default, this solved the issue temporarly smile.gif

BUT still we need either a "calculation for vistaNTFS" or "formatting xpntfs under hostos" as BootSDI use ntfs and someone will want to have ntfs on .vmdk file in future. For now having BootSDI image with freespace 24 mb default was enough till now for vistantfs.


ps: i took notes of changes in scripts carelfully for you to find easly

Also i made some addings with name 'Stop and Remove' to bootsdi, wimpack and scriptproject. After finding the solutions, they are useless now, so i uncheck them from default, but keep them for your last look.


I guess for now it is enough smile.gif , Welcome

Happy New year smile.gif
Reason for edit: forget to finish sentence -- look bold


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post Jan 1 2009, 12:08 AM
Post #972
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QUOTE (Lancelot @ Jan 1 2009, 09:51 AM) *
I try to do my best when you are away

I'm sure you've done your best and that you've done a great job. I for one am exceedingly greatful!

QUOTE
so i change bootsdi and wimpack scripts to copy vdk files on a temp folder with name "%year%%month%%day%%hour%%minute%%milisecond%"
This solved the issue smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

OK, good. I'm glad a solution has been found.

QUOTE
2) Vista NTFS
vista NTFS is different than XP NTFS, which cause less free space when formatted with vistantfs. I couldnt find to format with xpntfs under vistahostos, this especially effects wimpack script directly so .wim files cant be copied to .vmdk (not enough free space)
so i add FAT32 option to wimdisk script, and selected as default, this solved the issue temporarly smile.gif


In WimPack script replace this line
CODE
_Calculate,"Ceiling(%IMGSize%+4+%pNumberBox1%)",ImgSize
with something like
CODE
Retrieve,FILEVERSION,%WindowsDir%\system32\ntdll.dll,%ntdll%
StrFormat,LEFT,%ntdll%,1,%winversion%
If,%winversion%,Equal,6,_Calculate,"Ceiling(%IMGSize%+8+%pNumberBox1%)",ImgSize
Else,_Calculate,"Ceiling(%IMGSize%+4+%pNumberBox1%)",ImgSize

Maybe the second last line needs a higher number, testing is needed.

QUOTE
Happy New year smile.gif
Happy new year to you, too!

Regards,
Galapo.


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Recommended steps to build LiveXP:
1) Download suitable WinBuilder.exe from here and run it;
2) Update through the Download Center by clicking the 'Download' button; and
3) Then build LiveXP by pressing the 'Play' button.
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post Jan 1 2009, 06:49 AM
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Galapo,

I will pospone vistantfs fix for a while, i am not a fast coder and still learning and i want to busy with other things too, for now my mind is clear because currently livexp is working with vista without problem smile.gif

Also nice news for you,

shortcut creation fixed so now icon showing work at startup %99 works very nice (%100 for you, you have hostosx86), disable "Do not refresh shortcuts on ISO boot" and see how nice it works with create ISO and Bootsdi smile.gif

newly nightly builds of winbuilder is now %100 working with hostosx64 thanks to Peter

And our new server never and mail notificaiton never crashed yet smile.gif thanks to Nuno, (also look safe skin on the right)

Dipe improved a lot but i couldnt update because kare waiting for you for final test results of sigmatel smile.gif , i hope you have good news (Thanks to kare, now i understand why sigmatel so special)

ps: I will upload LiveXP full, recommended and minimum today in single 3 .zip packages.
ps: new ultraiso is not in download list

Happy new year smile.gif


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post Jan 1 2009, 07:00 AM
Post #974
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QUOTE (Lancelot @ Jan 1 2009, 05:49 PM) *
shortcut creation fixed so now icon showing work at startup %99 works very nice (%100 for you, you have hostosx86), disable "Do not refresh shortcuts on ISO boot" and see how nice it works with create ISO and Bootsdi smile.gif

Good to hear!

QUOTE
Dipe improved a lot but i couldnt update because kare waiting for you for final test results of sigmatel smile.gif , i hope you have good news (Thanks to kare, now i understand why sigmatel so special)

Unfortunately, still not working without manual steps.

QUOTE
ps: I will upload LiveXP full, recommended and minimum today in single 3 .zip packages.

I suggest to upload to the \compressed\ folder.

QUOTE
ps: new ultraiso is not in download list

It's only uploaded to my site. I can't log in to the livexp server to update as the details I have aren't being accepted. I've emailed Nuno requesting the new details, but maybe you could PM me them too.

Regards,
Galapo.


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Recommended steps to build LiveXP:
1) Download suitable WinBuilder.exe from here and run it;
2) Update through the Download Center by clicking the 'Download' button; and
3) Then build LiveXP by pressing the 'Play' button.
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post Jan 1 2009, 07:16 AM
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uppps,

I mean "Enable "Do not refresh shortcuts on ISO boot"" and see how nice it works. smile.gif

I start uploading now, it takes 2 hours to me smile.gif Breakfast time smile.gif


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post Jan 1 2009, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE
*********Discussion (will be made later after galapo joins back)
Ingredient of recommended Livexp, how should it be smile.gif
Peter's comment:
QUOTE

In my opinion, the 'recommended' download maybe shoud have the scripts it currently has.

But it should have much less SELECTED scripts!
In the very first trial, running into an emulator, MassStorage drivers, AntiVir scripts etc. are really not necessary.
They can be added by the user if he wants to burn a real CD or to build an USB stick.


I agree and disagree.

I agree that perhaps too many scripts are offered as selected under recommended. These are mainly apps and I have now made some alterations to that effect and uploaded. I checked, but no antivirus comes with recommended, so that's fine.

However, I disagree that drivers should not be offered as recommeded. In my opinion, mass storage drivers should be recommended as they are necessary on a lot of modern systems. Of course, the user has the option to deselect, but they should be offered selected as default. If the end user wants a first trial with bare minimum, then minimal should be chosen. But "recommended" is still the recommended option for LiveXP, where mass storage drivers are the recommendation.

Regards,
Galapo.


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galapo.boot-land.net
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Recommended steps to build LiveXP:
1) Download suitable WinBuilder.exe from here and run it;
2) Update through the Download Center by clicking the 'Download' button; and
3) Then build LiveXP by pressing the 'Play' button.
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post Jan 3 2009, 04:20 PM
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@Galapo
Do you know what exactly the problem with your sigmatel driver is?

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post Jan 3 2009, 10:31 PM
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I also have sigmatel
Galapo explained the problem
here
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post Jan 3 2009, 11:44 PM
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Thanks Dera!
Was this the device you tested NaughtyPE with?

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post Jan 3 2009, 11:58 PM
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From the description, i assume that the driver package must consists of 7 different *.sys. Is that so?

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Requirements: WB072 or 077RC2, XPSP2/W2k3SP1 source, Pentium CPU, 128MB RAM (256MB to use video players)
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