Hello dear guest!
Boot Land is a community driven site established since 2006 and focused on data recovery/backup boot disks, research of Windows 2000/XP/2003/Vista/7 install/deployment/antivirus tools, customizing Windows PE systems and even learning how to recover from disaster situations.
How about joining our boot disk community? So do it. Life's short!
- You
get free access to our newsletter with all the interesting
buzz about boot disks
- We share publicity revenue with everyone who wishes to participate at the forums
- Publicity is never, never, never displayed to members (along with many other cool
things)
http://boot-land.net/register
|
 |
Multiple boot partitiions on the same drive, (Reading bold parts of the text is enough to understand my troubles) |
|
|
|
Feb 17 2009, 05:21 PM
|
|
|
Hello everybody. I have a quite puzzling problem. I'm under xp, and have a usb stick which i need to be formatted with 3 primary ntfs partitions: one for data, another for data too (but to be used with true-crypt), while the third needed to multi-boot an xp and a vista setup.To achieve my goal, i acted like so: using this really remarkable tool (i mean the one reachable here), i made a multi-boot xp and vista setup out of the removable drive. Then, in order to resize the bootable ntfs partition created by the tool (so to be able to create the other two partitions), i used the hitachi filter driver to make xp see the usb stick as if it were a fixed unit. What's the problem, hence? Easy to say: the problem is i have the usb stick to be portable. I mean: i need the default driver (the microsoft one that sees the usb disk as a removable device) to see as a removable device the data partition, not the bootable nor the true-crypt partitions. It shows the bootable partition instead.This is due to the fact that, when you turn back to the default driver, the OS sees as a removable device just one partition among the created (no more than one). The point is, at most, which partition is choosen to be shown and why. I have noticed that to be shown as a removable device, there's no need at all it is the partition where xp and vista setup files are: when you have on the stick three primary partitions none of which is bootable, it is the first partition on disk that is seen as a removable unit. In particular, when the partition where xp and vista setup files are (let's call it «D:» ) is bootable, the default driver keeps showing D: as the removable device until you convert it to a logical partition (no matter if you have set it as inactive or as hidden when using the filter driver). To be honest, i don't know if the tool makes the partition bootable in the sense that it writes grub4dos in the MBR of the entire usb stick disk or else in the sense that it writes grub4dos in D: bootsector (i just know it requires the partition to be active for the boot process to work), but in any case what i need is the default driver to show the data partition, not D:. So here comes my question. Let's suppose that having more than one bootable partition on the same device can change the priority with which the default driver chooses among partitions the one to be shown (for example: if i make the data partition a bootable partition, now i have two bootable partitions and the priority criterion becomes to show the partition that comes first on disk). If so, could you please indicate or teach me a way to have multiple bootable partitions on the same device? (i have heard of multiple boot records, am i on the right path or am i just confused?) Or at least: could you please show me a guide or teach me how to create a multi-boot usb stick in such a way that the bootable partition actually is the data partition, but having a bootchain in it to launch grub4dos from the other partition?I hope i have been clear enough. The puzzle is driving me crazy so... any help will be truly appreciated. Thanks a lot!
|
|
|
|
Feb 17 2009, 05:44 PM
|
|
|

|
|
Joined: 14-July 06
From: Gone in the mist
Posts: 7,224
Thank(s): 547
 Italy

|
|
QUOTE (Luca's @ Feb 17 2009, 07:21 PM)  I hope i have been clear enough. Maybe you also overdid it.  What is the reason for three primaries?  If i get it right, in "normal" operation you just need to "see" one partition out of the three, correct? If yes, you have two choices: - keep grub4dos installed on the MBR (+hidden sectors) and add the commands needed to hide/unhide active/inactive the partition each time you boot from the stick.
- remove grub4dos from the MBR and use instead
OS-BS mbldr: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=334(this is advised as it fits ENTIRELY in the MBR thus avoiding possible problems with any software that may use the hidden sectors) then: Add to EACH partition a set of tools for ALL operating systems running on the PCs you are going to use the stick on capable of setting the Active partition. Let's start to call partitons with their "names", a partition is better indicated by it's position, like in (hd x, y) where x is the drive number, 0 if you boot from it, n if added to an already booted system, y is the partition number, 0 being the first one (in grub4dos notation, 1 in common NT based windows notation). To better clear the above, first partition of first disk will be: (hd0,0) in grub4dos or rdisk(0)partition(1) in Windows ARCPATH, shortened to 0,1 When you boot from the stick, the three partitions will be: (hd0,0) (hd0,1) (hd0,2) when you insert the stick in an already booted system, with already one disk in it, you will get: (hd1,0) (hd1,1) (hd1,2) It would be nice if you could run ddlistw.cmd: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...c=6492&st=7and post it's output, like in this post: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...5306&st=156And a screenshot of the USB thingy as seen by beeblebrox: http://students.cs.byu.edu/~codyb/or however the info how it sees the stick. This way I can see how it is formatted and how it is seen by windows (with and without the filter driver). jaclaz
--------------------
|
|
|
|
Feb 18 2009, 12:34 AM
|
|
|
I will begin by posting the infos you asked me. Then i will develop my reasonment. This is how the stick is seen as fixed with the 3 partitions in it: CODE Drives by drive letter: c: 0,1 FIX \Volume{302303c8-08ca-11dd-bfed-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume1 d: 0,3 FIX \Volume{2a969c7a-b7af-11dd-8329-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume3 e: 0,2 FIX \Volume{2a969c7b-b7af-11dd-8329-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume2 f: x,x CDR \Volume{82185941-08cb-11dd-aab9-806d6172696f} \CdRom0 g: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f062-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom3 h: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f060-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom1 i: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f061-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom2 j: x,x CDR \Volume{c3b0e5db-b319-11dd-ab81-005056c00008} \CdRom4 k: x,x CDR \Volume{b9e9cdc3-f691-11dd-abce-005056c00008} \CdRom5 l: 1,2 FIX \Volume{a95f399e-fcd1-11dd-abe7-005056c00008} \HarddiskVolume5 m: 1,3 FIX \Volume{a95f399c-fcd1-11dd-abe7-005056c00008} \HarddiskVolume6 n: 1,1 FIX \Volume{a95f399d-fcd1-11dd-abe7-005056c00008} \HarddiskVolume4
Drives by connection: c: 0,1 FIX \Volume{302303c8-08ca-11dd-bfed-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume1 e: 0,2 FIX \Volume{2a969c7b-b7af-11dd-8329-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume2 d: 0,3 FIX \Volume{2a969c7a-b7af-11dd-8329-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume3 n: 1,1 FIX \Volume{a95f399d-fcd1-11dd-abe7-005056c00008} \HarddiskVolume4 l: 1,2 FIX \Volume{a95f399e-fcd1-11dd-abe7-005056c00008} \HarddiskVolume5 m: 1,3 FIX \Volume{a95f399c-fcd1-11dd-abe7-005056c00008} \HarddiskVolume6 f: x,x CDR \Volume{82185941-08cb-11dd-aab9-806d6172696f} \CdRom0 h: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f060-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom1 i: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f061-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom2 g: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f062-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom3 k: x,x CDR \Volume{b9e9cdc3-f691-11dd-abce-005056c00008} \CdRom5 j: x,x CDR \Volume{c3b0e5db-b319-11dd-ab81-005056c00008} \CdRom4 This is how the stick is seen as a removable device: CODE Drives by drive letter: c: 0,1 FIX \Volume{302303c8-08ca-11dd-bfed-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume1 d: 0,3 FIX \Volume{2a969c7a-b7af-11dd-8329-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume3 e: 0,2 FIX \Volume{2a969c7b-b7af-11dd-8329-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume2 f: x,x CDR \Volume{82185941-08cb-11dd-aab9-806d6172696f} \CdRom0 g: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f062-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom3 h: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f060-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom1 i: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f061-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom2 j: x,x CDR \Volume{c3b0e5db-b319-11dd-ab81-005056c00008} \CdRom4 k: x,x CDR \Volume{b9e9cdc3-f691-11dd-abce-005056c00008} \CdRom6 l: 1,1 REM \Volume{b9e9cdc4-f691-11dd-abce-005056c00008} \Harddisk1\DP(1)0-0+d
Drives by connection: c: 0,1 FIX \Volume{302303c8-08ca-11dd-bfed-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume1 e: 0,2 FIX \Volume{2a969c7b-b7af-11dd-8329-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume2 d: 0,3 FIX \Volume{2a969c7a-b7af-11dd-8329-806d6172696f} \HarddiskVolume3 l: 1,1 REM \Volume{b9e9cdc4-f691-11dd-abce-005056c00008} \Harddisk1\DP(1)0-0+d f: x,x CDR \Volume{82185941-08cb-11dd-aab9-806d6172696f} \CdRom0 h: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f060-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom1 i: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f061-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom2 g: x,x CDR \Volume{8711f062-204b-11dd-aac0-0013ce9184f6} \CdRom3 k: x,x CDR \Volume{b9e9cdc3-f691-11dd-abce-005056c00008} \CdRom6 j: x,x CDR \Volume{c3b0e5db-b319-11dd-ab81-005056c00008} \CdRom4 This is the beeblebrox screenshot. It is the same both with and without the fixed driver.
QUOTE What is the reason for three primaries? Well, to tell the truth, no reason. Only the bootable partition needs to be primary... QUOTE If i get it right, in "normal" operation you just need to "see" one partition out of the three, correct? If by "normal operation" is meant when i have windows normally running from the notebook hard disk, yes, i need so. To be more precise, i need not just to be shown only one partition, but the data partition and not the others. Let's suppose i decide to keep grub4dos (because i think it's too hard-coded in the multi-boot installation process of the partition created by the tool). I can't understand why you suggest me to QUOTE Add to EACH partition a set of tools for ALL operating systems running on the PCs you are going to use the stick on capable of setting the Active partition. First of all: what tools do you refer to? Then, do you think setting as the active partition the data partition L: instead of the bootable partition N: will solve the problem? My question is not pretentious, i just don't understand if it's that what you think. Because if you think so, i have to say i've already worked on setting (with Acronis disk director) both the other 2 partitions to be the active one, but with just the result that the usb stick gives an error when i try to boot from it, while it still sees N: as the removable device when i am within windows. In any case, what's strange to me as an ignorant is that N: partition is seen as Volume4 even if i have moved it to be, in order, the third partition on disk. BTW, thank you very much for your kindness.
|
|
|
|
Feb 18 2009, 07:45 PM
|
|
|

|
|
Joined: 14-July 06
From: Gone in the mist
Posts: 7,224
Thank(s): 547
 Italy

|
|
OK.  Let's start with some order. This: QUOTE l: 1,2 FIX \Volume{a95f399e-fcd1-11dd-abe7-005056c00008} \HarddiskVolume5 m: 1,3 FIX \Volume{a95f399c-fcd1-11dd-abe7-005056c00008} \HarddiskVolume6 n: 1,1 FIX \Volume{a95f399d-fcd1-11dd-abe7-005056c00008} \HarddiskVolume4 (stick seen as fixed) probably means that you already connected this particular stick to the particular PC you are using and during any of the tests the first partition (1,1) got assigned letter "n". This kind of assignment is generally "sticky", until you do not re-assign the letter through mountvol or Disk Management. The beeblebrox screenshot shows how your partitioning... well... ...is a mess.  beeblebrox (through the filter driver you are using) sees the stick as having a geometry of 61,209x16x32, and more generally a geometry of nx16x32, which is not "standard". The stick appears to have been partitioned (or re-partitioned) in a "queer" way. First Entry (entry 0) is starting past cylinder 1023, and has fractional heads/sectors. It should really be entry 2, size is 3.444.439.040 bytes Though this may not be a problem since the partition is NTFS and thus accessed through LBA addressing, it might not be "compatible" with some BIOSes. Second Entry (entry 1) should actually be entry 0 (as it starts - correctly - at CHS 0/1/1 or LBA 63) size is 10.561.227.264 bytes Third Entry (entry 2) should actually be entry 1, size is 2.039.869.440 I would suggest you to re-start from scratch, thus you will lose any data you have currently on the stick, please backup any data you care about. Please FORGET Acronis, I may well be wrong, but I suspect that it is part of the problem  . What you have currently is roughly: - a 10 Gb partition
- a 2 Gb partition
- a 3 Gb partition
Which one is "data", which one is "truecrypt" and which one is "setups"? What you should do now is clear the first, say, 100 sectors of the stick. You can use a hex/disk editor, if you are familiar with it, or the method using fsz/dsfo here: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=3453&st=8Be VERY careful in using the right Physicaldrive number! Disconnect the stick and reconnect it. Access it through Disk Management (I am assuming you are having the Filter Driver installed) and partition the disk, creating first thing the "setups" partition, then the "truecrypt" one, then the data one. Make three primary ones. Format each of them as NTFS. Disconnect the stick and reconnect it. Run again beeblebrox and post screenshot. About your question, when there is NO filter driver in the NT based OS, only one partition is accessible, the Active one. Hidden partitions are NOT assigned drive letters anyway. The idea should be that when you boot from the stick, you have: - "setups" Active and unhidden
- "data" hidden
- "truecrypt" hidden
And you are able from the boot menu to change the Active and hidden status of each partition for present and NEXT boot/connection. (through grub4dos or other "special" MBR) When you access the stick by connecting it to a live system, you must have (on ALL partitions in the stick, so that whatever is the unhidden active one you can access it) a tool to be able to switch the status of the partitions, so that you can change it to the one you like to access and by disconnecting and reconnecting the stick access the one you are interested in. In other words the stick can be in either of THREE states, depending on how you left it last time you used/accessed it: - "setups" Active and unhidden/"data" hidden/"truecrypt" hidden
- "setups" hidden/"data" Active and unhidden/"truecrypt" hidden
- "setups" hidden/"data" hidden/"truecrypt" Active and unhidden
And you need a way to "switch" among the above both when you are booting from the stick (through grub4dos or "special" MBR) and when you simply connect it to a working system (the "other tool", which can be the same beeblebrox, a diskpart script, MBRFIX, MBRWIZ, and a number of other programs). I hope that the above is clear enough to show what the "plan" is.  jaclaz
--------------------
|
|
|
|
Feb 19 2009, 11:51 PM
|
|
|
Sorry for being late but i have some problems to stay connected. As usual, i begin with providing you the infos you asked me, then reply. QUOTE What you have currently is roughly: 1. a 10 Gb partition 2. a 2 Gb partition 3. a 3 Gb partition Which one is "data", which one is "truecrypt" and which one is "setups"? The 10 gb partition should be data The 2 gb should be truecrypt The 3 gb partition should be setups But you told me to create QUOTE first thing the "setups" partition, then the "truecrypt" one, then the data one so i have partitioned in the order you said. Here's the beeblebrox screenshot (after having zeroed the first 100 sectors and having partitioned):
With disk management, setups is L:, truecrypt is M:, data is N:. I have to specify there is no active partition at the moment. In addition, let me say i now better understand your plan: but before to reply, i have to clarify a little more what my needs are. First of all, when within Windows, i'd like the setups partition to be ALWAYS hidden, both when the OS uses the filter driver and when it does not (which is to prevent the user from accidentally deleting setups files). The same holds true for the truecrypt partition. In other words: within Windows, i need ONLY the data partition to be shown, be it with the filter driver or not. On the other side, i still need to boot in some way from the setups partition. These are the pre-requisites: i have to meet them all, and simultaneously. So, back to your solution. Given the pre-requisites, it follows i only want the state 2 to be true. this one--> ("setups" hidden/ "data" Active and unhidden/"truecrypt" hidden). I want to explicitly exclude state 1 and 3. About the filter driver, in order to see the data partition only, it is sufficient to mark the setups and truecrypt partitions as hidden. Here, setting the data partition as active is uninfluential. (We have now setups and truecrypt hidden) About the default driver, in order to see the data partition only, you told me i need to set it active. (We have now setups and truecrypt hidden, while data active) So, being the data partition the active one, it follows i can only create a bootchain from the data partition, to be also able to boot from the setups partition. I see no other solution (even if i hope there could be one). If i mark the setups partition as active, then the default driver within windows shows setups instead of data. I don't intend to despise your useful proposal, but it's still that: 1 i prefer to avoid setting each time the active and hidden partitions manually 2 above all, i don't want to have any tool on any partition to allow those partitions i don't want to be shown to be shown. It has to be a pre-arranged configuration that only expert hands should deal with. Well, the first to like it easier would be me, please trust me when i say. I'm sorry, but that's what i want to do: just hope if i solve my problem, it could help other people too.
|
|
|
|
Feb 20 2009, 09:38 AM
|
|
|

|
|
Joined: 14-July 06
From: Gone in the mist
Posts: 7,224
Thank(s): 547
 Italy

|
|
You'll have to agree that the newly partitioned stick looks a lot more "tidy"  . Well, you cannot have BOTH [italian] botte piena e moglie ubriaca [/italian] (the above is an italian proverb, you cannot have at the same time wife drunk and cask of wine full) Some compromises are needed. Let's see which are the most simple ones. I take for granted that you want the "truecrypt" always hidden and you have some misterious  way to deal with it. In beeblebrox, change the type 07 in entry #2 to 17 and let's forget about it. So we have just two partitions left. Install grub4dos to MBR +hidden sectors method #8: http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/...ll.htm#method08Copy grldr to "setup" partition, copy to it also NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM and a BOOT.INI with at least two entries, the one here will be OK for this test: http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/...ll.htm#method05copy to it also a tag file, create a new empty .txt file and rename it my_grldr.tag copy to it also a menu.lst as follows: CODE color black/cyan yellow/cyan timeout 30 default /default
title find and load NTLDR of Windows NT/2K/XP find --set-root /my_grldr.tag makeactive unhide chainloader /ntldr
title rehide setup partition find --set-root /my_grldr.tag hide find --set-root /my_data.tag makeactive unhide copy to the "data" partition a tag file , create a new empty .txt file and rename it my_data.tag In beeblebrox, hide the "setup" partition by changing the type 07 in entry #0 to 17 . Set the "data" partition active by writing 80 in "boot" field. Try booting from the stick. Choose the "find and load NTLDR of Windows NT/2K/XP". You should be able to get to the choices in boot.ini, of which the "windows" entry won't work, and the grldr one should bring you back to menu.lst choices. Restart the PC and check the stick with beeblebrox, once after having chosen "find and load NTLDR of Windows NT/2K/XP" last and once after having chosen "rehide setup partition". Proposed method: - normal status of the stick is 2. "setups" hidden/"data" Active and unhidden/"truecrypt" hidden
- when you boot from the stick you can choose to make the setup partition active/unhidden (and thus use it to install)
- once the setup has finished you need to reboot from the stick once again and choose the "rehide setup partition" entry
- stick is back to "normal" status
If this is acceptable, try it, report, and we'll see some "enhancements", like password protecting etries in menu.list, using UUID instead of "tag" files, etc. jaclaz
--------------------
|
|
|
|
Feb 20 2009, 05:47 PM
|
|
|
QUOTE You'll have to agree that the newly partitioned stick looks a lot more "tidy" Yep i think so. I take your word for it.  BTW i have not understood why you told me not to use Acronis.. Well, no matter if you don't want to dwell on long explanations, but could you please indicate me a substitutive tool to resize, move, mark partitions as active, convert them from logical to primary etc.? Partition magic didn't seem that advanced to me. Anyway yes, to momentarily forget the truecrypt partition was my intention too. So, let's come to the point. I think it's not really that the proposed method is not acceptable: it's rather that i still don't get why grub4dos needs the setups partition to be active and unhidden to load the installation process. Could not the installation process be launched in memory like any normal program? Is it because to launch it you can't skip the loading of ntldr? Or is it because the second part of the windows installation needs the partition active and unhidden, to be completed? As far as i've seen, when i had hidden the setups partition with Acronis, the first part of the xp setup launched correctly even when the partition was the last one on disk (but well, yes, there still was the partition mess). You know i just don't want to have critical files on the data partition. They could be deleted. So, if «using UUID instead of "tag" files» is a method to avoid files on the data partition, it is welcome. Even better with passwords in the boot menu. This way, having to set the active partition each time i complete a setup, is a compromise i can stand. But first tell me it is impossible to reach my goal otherwise (i mean tell me it is not possible to leave the data partition always active). Because if you know other methods, i don't mind if they take time or they're difficult. I just do prefer to avoid stepping in with setting what partitions are active and what are not. There is also one more question. Let's say i decide to adopt the last strategy you advised me. What about creating the setups partition files with winsetupfromusb? Will you help me find the way how to make the multi-boot setup process with xp and vista work, given that i'll have a grub4dos menu modified if compared with the one originally created with the tool? I mean either help with a guide to create the multi-boot partition out of nothing too... Thanks a lot for all of your precious suggestions.
|
|
|
|
Feb 20 2009, 06:28 PM
|
|
|

|
|
Joined: 14-July 06
From: Gone in the mist
Posts: 7,224
Thank(s): 547
 Italy

|
|
QUOTE (Luca's @ Feb 20 2009, 07:47 PM)  I think it's not really that the proposed method is not acceptable: it's rather that i still don't get why grub4dos needs the setups partition to be active and unhidden to load the installation process. Could not the installation process be launched in memory like any normal program? Is it because to launch it you can't skip the loading of ntldr? Or is it because the second part of the windows installation needs the partition active and unhidden, to be completed? WRONG question.  grub4dos couldn't care less about hidden and active partitions, but the Windows setup does. You seem not to appreciate enough that installing XP from USB was IMPOSSIBLE by design according to the good MS guys. For years this was accepted as an undeniable truth. Now, after several months of hard work, the people involved: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=111401managed to find a working solution. Not only, they continued bettering it, day after day, and came out with three different ways/methods to do that. You may want to compare the number of people who viewed the referenced thread with the actual thank you's in it, then check how many people in the Forum: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showforum=157posted to say "nice, but I need it a different setup...." Currently, Install for XP must run from first, Active, Unhidden, Primary partition on the stick. This is NOT negotiable. QUOTE BTW i have not understood why you told me not to use Acronis.. Well, no matter if you don't want to dwell on long explanations, but could you please indicate me a substitutive tool to resize, move, mark partitions as active, convert them from logical to primary etc.? Partition magic didn't seem that advanced to me. The whole point with Acronis (as well as Partition Magic, which I personally rate worse than Acronis) is you have NO control over what you do. But basically they are too "easy" people thinks that since the program automagically does it they can move, shift, activate, convert types and filesystems at will. Result is often a partitioning that does not make sense, like your original one, or other "collateral damages" you find about only when you need a paritcular setup/OS. In my personal view partitions should be planned and done once and for all. Besides the (very few) problems the mentioned app actually have, the real problem is that they give "power" to the unexperienced user, thus "unleashing" his/her lack of planning/thinking ahead, through the (false) omnipotence feeling, like in: HA, no prob, I'll just fire up <app name> and will fix it in no time.... Anyway, using always some "manual" tools to check what has been done by these "magic" utilities is advised. QUOTE (Luca's @ Feb 20 2009, 07:47 PM)  There is also one more question. Let's say i decide to adopt the last strategy you advised me. What about creating the setups partition files with winsetupfromusb? Will you help me find the way how to make the multi-boot setup process with xp and vista work, given that i'll have a grub4dos menu modified if compared with the one originally created with the tool? I mean either help with a guide to create the multi-boot partition out of nothing too... I have a better question for you  , why do you think that I made you have the "setup" partitition be first, Active, Unhidden, Primary?   jaclaz
--------------------
|
|
|
|
Feb 21 2009, 11:21 AM
|
|
|
QUOTE I have a better question for you , why do you think that I made you have the "setup" partitition be first, Active, Unhidden, Primary? Actually i suspected it was the same reason for winsetupfromusb required me those conditions QUOTE You seem not to appreciate enough that installing XP from USB was IMPOSSIBLE by design according to the good MS guys. Oops..  So. I have tested the proposed method and it fully works. There is a problem though. Before to proceed to the next step, which i suppose to be when you teach me how to password-protect the boot menu and use UUIDs instead of tag files, i have to ask you: Why the hell using the filter driver everything is okay, while using the default driver it shows as the removable device the setups partition and not the data one??? Data partition is active and unhidden; the setups one is inactive and hidden: well, i can't understand!Is it due to the fact i have a u3 device with the cd-rom firmware feature activated (maybe it has some influence on how the driver sees partitions on the stick)? I don't think so: it rather seems to me that, when i have an unmodified mbr and partitions are without files, the partition shown is not the one gldr is into... I don't post any screenshot how beeblebrox sees the unit when the OS uses the default driver: i've checked and (apart from 80s and 17s) numbers have not changed from when i had partitioned. I post the disk management screenshot instead (default driver currently being used).
 ---
|
|
|
|
Feb 21 2009, 11:59 AM
|
|
|

|
|
Joined: 14-July 06
From: Gone in the mist
Posts: 7,224
Thank(s): 547
 Italy

|
|
QUOTE (Luca's @ Feb 21 2009, 01:21 PM)  Why the hell using the filter driver everything is okay, while using the default driver it shows as the removable device the setups partition and not the data one??? Data partition is active and unhidden; the setups one is inactive and hidden: well, i can't understand! I guess that it is due to the method not working  (yet  ). Try the following: - run beeblebrox
- take a screenshot of it (for reference)
- copy all values in entry #1 to entry #0 and all values from entry #0 to entry #1
- disconnect and re-connect USB stick
What happens? jaclaz
--------------------
|
|
|
|
|
 |
1 User(s) are reading this topic ()
|
|