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*** Install XP from USB AFTER Booting with PE from HDD or USB ***

1. Install of XP from USB using USB_XP_Setup.exe

The package U_XP_SET contains Folder USB_XP_Setup with 3 Programs, which you can Launch via PStart.exe
  • Make_USB.exe can Copy your XP Source to USB-Drive and can make it Bootable with LiveXP for Emergency
  • BOOT_IMG.exe Copies WinBuilder LiveXP BootSDI.img Image file to C-Harddisk or USB-Drive
    and makes Entry for boot.ini Menu and GRUB4DOS menu.lst for Booting with LiveXP PE from RAMDISK.
    This is useful as Escape Boot Option in case Booting with Windows XP or XP Setup may fail,
    so that you can Repair your System or use Ghost for System Backup and System Restore.
  • USB_XP_SETUP.exe can make XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT on Install-Drive usually C:
    and will specify in TXTSETUP.SIF where to find the FULL XP Source on partition 1 of USB-Drive
    XP Setup Source Folder must always be on USB-stick or on partition 1 of ANY Harddisk.

Direct Download - U-XP-SET

Before you Start to Install XP:
  • Prepare XP Source Folder and Live XP BootSDI.img File as described in Sections 2 and 3
  • Vista as OS requires to turn User Account Control OFF (only needed for the old Batch cmd Programs)
  • Run the SFX SelfExtractor U_XP_SET.exe and use Extract to the Root of your Workstation Harddisk
    In this way you will get on your Local Harddisk the folder U_XP_SET with PStart.exe to launch the 3 Programs
  • Copy Winbuilder\Workbench\Common\BootSDI\setupldr.bin and ramdisk.sys to USB_XP_Setup\makebt\srsp1 folder
  • Run Make_USB.exe and Select and use a FAST Target USB-stick
  • Use HP Format Tool to format Target USB-stick with NTFS FileSystem (Fastest for FileCopy)
  • Select your XP Source Folder and LiveXP RAM BootSDI.img File and Enable Copy of U_XP_SET Folder to Make your USB-stick
  • Run BOOT_IMG.exe to Copy WinBuilder LiveXP BootSDI.img Image file to C-BootDrive of Harddisk
    and make Entry for boot.ini Menu and GRUB4DOS menu.lst for Booting with LiveXP PE from RAMDISK.
    This is also useful as Escape Boot Option in case Booting with Windows XP or XP Setup may fail,
    so that you can Repair your System or use Ghost for System Backup and System Restore.
    BOOT_IMG.cmd can if needed also Create NEW IMG or ISO BOOT IMAGE Files from LiveXP / BartPE output Folder.

The XP Setup Procedure:
  • Connect USB-drive having XP Source in partition 1 (Connect before Booting with LiveXP from HDD)
  • Remove All Other USB-Drives like CardReaders and USB-Harddisks
  • Reboot from C-Harddisk and Select BootSDI.img to Boot from RAMDISK with LiveXP into PE Environment
  • Then for Fresh Install, Quick Format with NTFS your Install-Drive usually C: using Drive Explorer of LiveXP
  • Run USB_XP_SETUP.exe to make XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT on Target Install-Drive
    Give XP Setup Source Path and Target Drive and Give LiveXP RAM BootSDI IMAGE File
    So in case when XP Setup fails, you have LiveXP as Escape Boot Option available on your Fresh Formatted Install Drive
  • If you Install on other than Active C-drive, then Use Disk Manager to Activate Install Drive Partition
  • Reboot Computer from Install Drive and Select XP Setup from boot.ini Menu
  • Proceed as usual with TXT-mode and GUI-mode of Unattended XP Setup
    In TXT-mode after FAST loading drivers the blue screen becomes black and
    then one needs to wait sufficiently until the blue screen with the Drive Partition List appears.
    Select the Install Partition usually C: and Auto proceed with FileCopy and Reboot for GUI-mode of XP Setup.
    WARNING
    Don't Delete the Install Partition, just Install on this previously in PE Quick Formatted NTFS Partition.
    Changing the Partitioning is a task which is done in LiveXP PE Environment with e.g. Acronis Disk Director 10.

The advantage of the present technique is that there are no changes needed in the BIOS Setting.
Booting for XP Setup occurs all the time as normal from the C-Install Drive if you Install on C-Drive.
Thus the USB-stick does not need to be bootable and it is not needed that the motherboard supports booting from USB.
In the case of total computer disaster it can still be handy to boot with LiveXP from USB-drive.

Another advantage is that you can use the FULL XP Source unchanged just as with Install from CD
and the $OEM$ folder is recognised and the [Unattended] section of winnt.sif file is used as normal.
Moreover USB_XP_Setup.exe allows to Select from different XP Sources on USB-Drive to be used for XP Setup.
Supports the use of BTS DriverPacks located in OEM Folder in XP Source Folder on USB-Drive
http://driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/

The NEW way of Install XP from USB AFTER booting with PE does not make use of WINNT32.EXE
In fact the only thing I do is Create the XP BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT of only 12 MB on the Install Drive
by parsing dosnet.inf and to specify in TXTSETUP.SIF where to find the FULL XPSOURCE.
XP Setup Source Folder must always be on USB-stick or on partition 1 of ANY Harddisk.
The XP Source might even be on CD/DVD, but we prefer of course to Install from fast USB-stick.
So the $WIN_NT$.~LS of about 500 MB is not made in this NEW way of Install XP from USB,
this saves time and there is no risk of loosing files during the XP Setup process.

Thanks to ilko_t I have learned how to use SetupSourcePath and SetupSourceDevice
to specify in TXTSETUP.SIF where to find the XP Source Folder, thus enabling
Alternative location of Setup files when installing from HD media
http://www.msfn.org/board/Alternative-loca...en-t119742.html

The nice thing is that once you specify the XP Source Location in TXTSETUP.SIF
you may but also must treat the XP Source the same as when it is on CD /DVD.
This means that we must use for this type of Install of XP from USB
settings in winnt.sif as MsDosInitiated="0" and floppyless="0"

How to boot with LiveXP from Harddisk using extra option in boot.ini Menu was described by me in
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...21682&st=24
Combining this technique with the possibility to make XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT on C-Install-Drive
by parsing dosnet.inf and to specify in TXTSETUP.SIF the XP Source location on USB-stick
has resulted in the present NEW way of Install of XP from USB AFTER booting with PE from C-Harddisk.

For Install of XP in a folder e.g. WIN51 next to existing WINDOWS folder you can use
USB_XP_Setup.exe direct from HDD without booting first into PE Environment.

Repair Install using USB_XP_Setup.exe
  • XP Setup Source Folder can be on USB-stick or on partition 1 of ANY Harddisk.
  • Connect USB-drive having XP Source in partition 1
  • Remove All Other USB-Drives like CardReaders and USB-Harddisks
  • Reboot as NORMAL from C-Harddisk, so that BIOS Resets USB-drive number
  • Run USB_XP_SETUP.exe to make XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT on Install-Drive usually C:
  • Repair Install is enabled by Disabling [Unattended] Section using ; in C:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\winnt.sif file
  • Reboot Computer from Install Drive usually C: and Select XP Setup from boot.ini Menu
  • Select in TXT-mode Existing Windows for Repair and continue with GUI-mode of XP Setup

2. XP-Source Preparation - *** BEFORE YOU START Install of XP***

Take care that your XPSOURCE Folder is located on your Harddisk in a simple Path without SPACES.
Copy the Content of your Windows XP Setup CD to your XPSOURCE Folder on Harddisk

Slipstream ServicePack SP3 First Manually in your XP-SP2 Source (don't use nLite).
Siginet's RyanVM Integrator or nLite can then be used to Integrate Windows UpdatePacks in the XP-Source.
Preferred is RyanVM Integrator v1.5.3 http://integrator.siginetsoftware.com/index.php?download
Or Alternatively use http://www.nliteos.com/

Windows XP UpdatePacks and Addons:
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/updatepack-sp2.html
http://integrator.siginetsoftware.com/index.php?addons
http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/

Supports the use of BTS DriverPacks located in OEM Folder on USB-Drive
http://driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/
For Install of XP on a modern system with SATA Drives it is needed to use DPsBase.exe
for Integrating in your XPSOURCE BTS DriverPack Massstorage with TXT Mode Enabled.
In that case a lot of Extra RAID SCSI and SATA Drivers (about 120 extra) are Integrated which appear in the
XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT on Install-Drive and can prevent a lot of XP Install Boot Problems.
First use RyanVM Integrator and then use DPsBase to Improve your XP-Source.
The program supplies a Customised presetup.cmd and changes the winnt.sif file for use of DriverPacks.

When you don't use nLite, you can Copy the supplied $OEM$ folder to your XP Source folder.
Change $OEM$ folder to your needs.
CMDLINES.TXT is used for making UserAccounts and install of Registry Tweaks at T-12
Info see: http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/

The Complete XP-Source is Copied by Make_USB.exe to USB-Drive
Computation of Estimated XP Folder Size is used to prevent USB-stick overflow
and includes $WIN_NT$.~BT + cmpnents + I386 + AMD64 + $OEM$ + OEM Folders.

Excluding LANG and WIN98X Folders from Copy to USB can be Selected
from Make_USB.exe Main Menu, which reduces the XP-Source on USB-Drive by 135 MB


3. LiveXP BootSDI.img File Preparation - *** BEFORE YOU START Install of XP ***

Tutorial of amalux on how to create LiveXP BootSDI.img files using WinBuilder
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=4111
Download LiveXP e.g. lx101408cxs from folder Projects in http://amalux.winbuilder.net/

WinBuilder U_XP_SET Script for LiveXP was made, which enables to create LiveXP BootSDI.img file
containing Pstart program launcher with USB_XP_Setup package for Install of XP from PE Environment.
So you can direct launch PStart and USB_XP_Setup.exe from the Desktop of LiveXP.

Download U-XP-SET Script

Put U_XP_SET.Script in your <WinBuilder>\Projects\LiveXP\Apps\XPSetup folder
e.g. in amalux Stable Project lx101408cxs\Projects\LiveXP\Apps\Setup
You can add a Ghost script (Ghost Plus!.script) which is very handy for System Backup and Restore.
I added also Basic > Tweaks > autoLocalization.Script made by psc and modified by Galapo,
necessary in Europe for decimal sign, from http://wimb.winbuilder.net/downloads/

For making BootSDI.img file you need XP-SP2 as Source and Switch Off your Firewall (Don't use XP-SP3 as Source).
The MassStorage DriverPack is automatically integrated in LiveXP made with WinBuilder.
ramdisk.sys and setupldr.bin of Windows Server 2003 SP1 must be in <WinBuilder>Workbench\Common\BootSDI directory.
Activate Finish > Create Image > Boot SDI and Run WinBuilder.
You can Deactivate Emulation and Burn Image, since we don't need a CD for our purpose.

WARNING
In an older Stable Project lx51808cx of amalux I noticed that the Drive Letters of Harddisk Partitions
are NOT present in the makebt\dplist.txt as produced by makebt\MBRWiz.exe /list
The result is that when USB_XP_Setup.exe is used in the lx51808cx LiveXP Environment,
then identification of Harddisk Partition from Drive Letter using makebt\dplist.txt fails,
so that USB_XP_Setup.exe cannot Continue.
It is known now that Acronis True Image Workstation 9.1 script in this build is causing the problem.

The Solution is to use another LiveXP BootSDI.img File e.g from Stable Project lx101408cxs
I can confirm that lx101408cxs works fine with USB_XP_Setup.exe
and Acronis True Image PE does NOT give the previously reported Drive Letter issue.


Adding U_XP_SET to your Existing LiveXP BootSDI.img File
  • Vista as OS requires to turn User Account Control OFF
  • Download and Run U_XP_SET.exe and Extract to U_XP_SET folder
  • Copy ramdisk.sys and setupldr.bin of your WinBuilder\Workbench\Common\BootSDI folder
    to your U_XP_SET\USB_XP_Setup\makebt\srsp1 folder
  • Run U_XP_SET\USB_XP_Setup\USB_XP_Setup.exe
  • Select just your XP Source folder to Copy some XP files to the makebt folder
    Then End USB_XP_Setup.exe with Exit
  • Run makebt\Mount_IMG.cmd and Select to Mount your BootSDI.img file in a Virtual Drive
  • Copy your U_XP_SET folder to your Virtual Drive in which you mounted BootSDI.img file
  • Use UnMount_IMG.cmd to Close the Virtual Drive and Save the Changes in your BootSDI.img file
  • Then Run U_XP_SET\USB_XP_Setup\BOOT_IMG.exe to Install your BootSDI.img file
    as Boot Option in XP boot.ini Menu or Vista GRUB4DOS menu.lst Menu
  • Reboot and Select from the Menu to Boot with your BootSDI.img file

LiveXP + U_XP_SET



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Program Direct Download - U-XP-SET
Live XP Script Download - U-XP-SET Script
Browse Folder Downloads - http://wimb.winbuilder.net/downloads/

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Credits:
I would like to thank ilko_t for publishing his AutoIt3 Source of WinSetupFromUSB_0-1-1.au3
at MSFN Forum http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=120444
Parts of WinSetupFromUSB were used for Creating Make_USB.exe

Update ChangeLog
10 December 2008
  • AutoIt3 was used to Remake 3 New GUI Programs for U_XP_SET
    BOOT_IMG.exe Make_USB.exe and USB_XP_SETUP.exe
  • If you want to use a modified ntdetect.com then put it in U_XP_SET\USB_XP_Setup\makebt\ folder
    The programs of U_XP_SET will use then this modified ntdetect.com instead of from your XP Source
  • WinBuilder U_XP_SET Script for LiveXP was made using MakeScript.exe of PedroLe15

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jaclaz
Very, very good. smile.gif

But noone has yet found the time/interest/will to answer my long time question:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=644
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=2623

A .script for winbuilder or BartPE configuration to build the ABSOLUTE MINIMAL PE capable of running WINNT32.EXE... sad.gif


jaclaz
Lancelot
smile.gif
i start winpe with .iso
copy xp setup files to C:\winsetup folder
i double click C:\winsetup\i386\winnt32.exe
then eject .iso and restart
setup started and continued with success. thumbup.gif

Probably (havent make trial on that) same method can be used with starting livexp in bootsdi.img on usb but this time as usb is c:\ maybe before restart there maybe a need to change source line in txtsetup.sif (D:\winsetup to C:\winsetup)
(i am not sure if only changing line in txtsetup.sif is enough or not)

the method i wrote seem to me more easier than the method wimp wrote.

Please correct me if i am wrong, i still have a rookie rank. worship.gif
wimb
QUOTE (jaclaz @ Jul 29 2008, 05:58 PM) *
A .script for winbuilder or BartPE configuration to build the ABSOLUTE MINIMAL PE capable of running WINNT32.EXE... sad.gif

Using WINNT32.EXE for making a $WIN_NT$.~LS LocalSource folder is rather ERROR sensitive.
Especially when Update Packs in XP-SP3 are Integrated it occurs that Files are not found by XP Setup.

The NEW way of Install XP from USB AFTER booting with PE does not make use of WINNT32.EXE
In fact the only thing I do is Create the XP BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT of only 12 MB on the Install Drive
by parsing dosnet.inf and to specify in TXTSETUP.SIF where to find the FULL XPSOURCE.
XP Setup Source Folder can be on USB-stick or on partition 1 of USB-HDD or second HDD-Drive.
The XP Source might even be on CD/DVD, but that was not the problem.
So the $WIN_NT$.~LS of about 500 MB is not made in this NEW way of Install XP from USB,
this saves time and there is no risk of loosing files during the XP Setup process.

The advantage of the present technique is that there are no changes needed in the BIOS Setting.
Booting for XP Setup occurs from the C-Install Drive.
In the case of XP OS the USB-stick does not need to be bootable
and it is not needed that the motherboard supports booting from USB.
jaclaz
OK, let me rephrase, the MINIMAL BartPE or Winbuilder to partition and format the HD and run your way to "Create the XP BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT" smile.gif

Would picoXP be enough?
Would XPCLI ? (running Swissknife for the partitioning)
Would possibly a picoXP + Swissknife?

Smaller build=faster booting time wink.gif

cheers.gif

jaclaz
wimb
Booting with WinBuilder075 LiveXP BootSDI.img of 130 MB from HDD takes only 1 minute.
The advantage is that you have XP like environment where you can decide
e.g. to make first a Ghost Backup of your system or to do any other interesting task.

So I think the time to make the BootFolder according to the NEW procedure
is already taking the minimum amount of time and LiveXP PE supplies a full featured XP like environment. smile.gif
jaclaz
Still, if 130 Mb take 60 seconds, an XPCLI or picoXP of about 25 Mb will take something like 20 or 30 seconds. happy22.gif

jaclaz
wimb
QUOTE (jaclaz @ Jul 30 2008, 12:38 PM) *
Still, if 130 Mb take 60 seconds, an XPCLI or picoXP of about 25 Mb will take something like 20 or 30 seconds. happy22.gif

jaclaz

May be, but I would really miss the nice GUI Interface of LiveXP wth Disk Manager etc. wink.gif
The only 1 minute for booting into LiveXP PE environment is well spend time ....
Lancelot
@wimp:
i need a little help here, smile.gif
What i am tryin to do is, putting all windows setup files to C:\ and start setup of xp with without winnt32.exe so it will be more automized and fast.
in my trials i got an error message: http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1052/e235hz8.png
so before USB_XP_Setup.cmd i used "bootsect.exe /nt52 C:" command so no error in picture anymore:

here what i do:
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i put "USB_XP_Setup" folder to B: (ram drive)
i double click C:\USB_XP_Setup\USB_XP_Setup.cmd
i changed usb stick to usb harddisk (i tried usb stick too)
for source: X:\source_XP_SP3_ENU
for install driver: C (so in screen it shows C:)
than i press 3 and everything worked fine.

i copy X:\source_XP_SP3_ENU to C:\ and rename it XPPRO so--->C:\XPPRO

i add/change lines in C:\TXTSETUP.SIF and C:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\txtsetup.sif with these information

[SetupData]
SetupSourcePath = "\XPPRO\"
SetupSourceDevice = \device\harddisk1\partition1

i restarted from hd and choose "Microsoft Windows XP Professional Setup"
setup starts with this
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9617/001hi6.png
put hangs here:
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1792/002oj6.png


so i changed lines to
SetupSourceDevice = \device\harddisk0\partition1
this time setup starts but stops here:
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/311/003ov7.png
and continues to copy files, and after it finishes it restarts and continue setupping windows in its gui mode.
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-does this utility support xpx64 and 2003x64?
-suggestion, can there be an option to use "bootsect.exe /nt52 C:" in USB_XP_Setup.cmd??
-when i try to put source as C:\XPPRO , USB_XP_Setup.cmd gave an error saying source and destination shouldnt be same, maybe there can be a WinPE_XP_Setup.cmd ???


as i say before, i am a rookie, sorry if i did sth wrong.

@jaclaz:
i can test wimb's utility at picoxp after these trials if you want smile.gif .
jaclaz
@Lancelot
I think it would be better if you start a new thread about your "different" approach, as not to go off-topic on this one.

Thanks for the offer to do some tests, it's much appreciated. smile.gif

@wimb
You know how we have a different "design" phylosophy. wink.gif

If I am allowed to make a comparison with U.S. Robotics (not the actual firm, the fictional one by Isaac Asimov), you are "traditional" in designing all-doing humanoid robots (or apps), whilst I am more like developing a number of VERY specialised non-humanoid ones, as in this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Thou_art_Mindful_of_Him

You are (BTW VERY well smile.gif) going in the direction of adding features to do more things, I aim to remove unused or unneeded things to get to the core of requred functionality for each task. wink.gif

cheers.gif

jaclaz

P.S.: XPCLI with bblean and miniexplorer + Swissknife ain't that shabby as well, as I see it. happy22.gif
wimb

@Lancelot
I think it is better to try the procedure first as it is meant and described in my first post:

QUOTE (wimb @ Jul 29 2008, 02:22 PM) *
  • USB_XP_SETUP.cmd makes XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT on C-partition of HDD Install-Drive
  • Use first BOOT_IMG.cmd to make LiveXP or BartPE Boot Image on XP C-HDD and to make entry in boot.ini Menu.
  • Connect USB-drive having XP Source in partition 1 and Reboot from C-HDD into PE Environment
  • Then for Fresh Install, Quick Format your C Install-Drive using Drive Explorer
  • Then Run Program USB_XP_SETUP.cmd to make BootFolder on Target Install-Drive
  • Install of XP on Target Drive can be Selected when Rebooting Computer from C-Target Drive

Your "different" approach is the source of your problems wink.gif
wimb
Booting with LiveXP from Vista Harddisk requires to make an Entry in the BCD Store
used for Vista's Boot Menu.

For VISTA it is handy to use EasyBCD and to Install NeoGrub from Add / Remove Entries Menu
NeoGrub corresponds to GRUB4DOS and works with menu.lst in Root dir

Download EasyBCD 1.7.2 from http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1

We need to add two extra XP files NTDETECT.COM and BOOTFONT.BIN to the Vista's Root Directory.
The BOOT_IMG.cmd program was changed slightly to support also booting with LiveXP from Vista Harddisk.

The Attachment in post #1 was Updated accordingly.
magic12kenneth
wimb,

First of all, thanks for creating this aswsome new procedure to install Windows XP from USB after booting from hard drive.

I have a quick question. I'm trying to help someone install Windows XP from a laptop without floppy drive, cd/dvd drive or usb boot. I swap the hard drive from his laptop over to my laptop that have a bootable USB or cd/dvd drive. I want to off my laptop using LiveXP from USB and then create a bootable LiveXP on his hard drive using the Boot_IMG.cmd.

However, when I try to create a bootable LiveXP on my USB flash drive using the Boot_IMG.cmd, I notice the boot.ini keep pointing to C: hard drive. Is the current version able to create a LiveXP usb bootable? I assume it can because the title said "Install XP from USB after booting with PE from HDD or USB".

If it can, how do I make a bootable LiveXP USB then?

I have a few feature requests:

Feature 1: If you do plan to add the LiveXP Bootable USB feature to the Boot_IMG.cmd, you can change the UI flow with the following screen title:

Screen 1: Welcome Screen

This is first screen you see with introduction and tips.

Screen 2: Create Bootable Drive

1. Create a bootable LiveXP Hard Drive
2. Create a bootable LiveXP USB Drive
3. Exit

Screen 3: Create a LiveXP bootable Hard Drive

Screen 3: Create a LiveXP bootable USB drive


Feature 2. I notice if your drive doesn't have enough space to copy the LiveXP.iso to the USB, it should display a warning message to let the user know.

Feature 3: If the LiveXP.iso already exist, have another option "Keep the current LiveXP.iso" to save the time without have to replace it again if it is same. Specially on a slow usb drive, it takes some time.

Thanks again.

Kenneth
magic12kenneth
Hi,

I'm getting this error message during the screen when trying to boot LiveXP.iso:

"txtsetup.sif is corrupt or missing"

Anyone know why I'm getting this?

I'm using the ISO\LiveXP.iso that I created with BootSDI option.

Kenneth
jaclaz
I am not sure I have understood fully your question, but I think that you should know that in "BOOT.INI" language a line like:
CODE
C:\bootsect.bs="A bootsector"


Translate in plain English to:
Add a choice in BOOT.INI displaying text "A bootsector";
When selected, chainload the file "bootsect.bs" from ROOT of the SAME volume where BOOT.INI resides, WHATEVER it might be.

jaclaz
jaclaz
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 8 2008, 09:33 AM) *
Hi,

I'm getting this error message during the screen when trying to boot LiveXP.iso:

"txtsetup.sif is corrupt or missing"

Anyone know why I'm getting this?

I'm using the ISO\LiveXP.iso that I created with BootSDI option.

Kenneth


I guess you have got something wrong. unsure.gif

The "output" of a "BootSDI" project should not be .iso, but rather a RAW disk image, BootSDI.img.

Re-check thoroghfully the Amalux Tutorial:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4111

check also this seemingly unrelated thread, I presume you are trying to do the same kind of "Matryoshka" booting yurry attempted unsure.gif:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=4952

jaclaz



magic12kenneth
QUOTE (jaclaz @ Aug 8 2008, 01:43 AM) *
I guess you have got something wrong. unsure.gif

The "output" of a "BootSDI" project should not be .iso, but rather a RAW disk image, BootSDI.img.

Re-check thoroghfully the Amalux Tutorial:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4111

check also this seemingly unrelated thread, I presume you are trying to do the same kind of "Matryoshka" booting yurry attempted unsure.gif:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=4952

jaclaz


Thanks for your quick reply. I will try it again using the BootSDI.img from my D:\LiveXP\ISO\Ram\I386 folder. I'll let you know what happen.

Can you verify if I the steps I use the Boot_Img.cmd to create a LiveXP bootable hard drive is correct?

1. Run BOOT_IMG.cmd

2. Press 1 to select the location to PE image to D:\LiveXP\ISO\Ram\I386\BootSDI.img folder

3. Press 2 to select the boot-drive traget as C: hard drive.

4. Press 3 to copy the PE image to the boot drive and make it bootable.

I left all other options as default.

Do I use the same steps as above to create a bootable LiveXP from USB Flash Drive? But only change the boot-drive traget as G: usb flash drive. I ask because that's what I did but I can't get it to work.

I tried do it by selecting the usb drive letter instead of my C: hard drive for "2. Give Boot-Drive Target" setting in the Boot_IMG.cmd screen. It copies the BootSDI.img and creates the bootable filesto the USB flash drive.

But when I boot from USB flash drive, it tries to look for the BootSDI.img from C: hard drive instead of the USB flash drive in boot.ini.

Then I decided to change the "C:\BootSDI.img" to "U:\BootSDI.img" since the migrated drive letter is set to U:. But still couldn't boot and can't find the U:\BootSDI.img.

Is this the proper steps to create a bootable LiveXP USB as describe above?

Basically I wanted to create a bootable LiveXP from hard drive and also from USB flash drive.

Because I'm trying to help my friend reinstall Windows XP for his laptop without a floppy drive, cd/dvd drive or usb device. I'm thinking transfer his hard drive over to my laptop and then boot off from LiveXP usb drive and then create a bootable LiveXP on his hard drive. Then transfer it back to laptop and boot off LiveXP and run Windows XP setup.

Any hints is greatly appreciate.

I will read those links you provided. Thanks.

Kenneth
magic12kenneth

Instead of using the LiveXP.iso, I use the bootSDI.img and it works fine when starting from c: hard drive. Thanks for the tip jaclaz.

I still couldn't get it to boot LiveXP off my usb drive using the Boot_IMG.cmd. Does Boot_IMG.cmd only works for booting from hard drive?

Kenneth
jaclaz
Most probably you introduced some changes or took a "wrong" choice in the procedure.

What you should do is (for the moment wink.gif) FORGET about BOOTIMG.CMD.

You should have on your stick:
NTLDR
NTDETECT.COM
grldr <- from grub4dos
SETUPLDR.BIN <- unmodified from Server 2003 SP1 or R2 NOT SP2
BootSDI.img

BOOT.INI with this content:
CODE
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=C:\grldr
[operating systems]
C:\grldr="grub4dos"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP on HD" /fastdetect


menu.lst with this content:
CODE
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
timeout 30
default 0

title SETUPLDR.BIN
find --set-root /BootSDI.img
chainloader /setupldr.bin

title Back to NTLDR
find --set-root /BootSDI.img
chainloader /ntldr


WINNT.SIF with this content:
CODE
[SetupData]
BootDevice="ramdisk(0)"
BootPath="\i386\System32\"
OsLoadOptions="/noguiboot /fastdetect /minint /rdexportashd /rdpath=BootSDIimg"


Get grub4dos 14-05-2008 here:
http://grub4dos.jot.com/WikiHome
http://grub4dos.jot.com/WikiHome/grub4dos-...-2008-05-14.zip?

What happens?

jaclaz
amalux
Hi wimb,

Just tried this and it works flawlessly biggrin.gif , wonderful tutorial, easy setup and your command scripts are brilliant smart.gif LiveXP booted to full desktop in under 30 seconds from the boot menu and everything worked as expected. I can't wait to try your other tutorials and programs, thank you for this great service and keep up the good work cheers.gif
wimb
QUOTE (amalux @ Aug 13 2008, 01:51 AM) *
Hi wimb,

Just tried this and it works flawlessly biggrin.gif , wonderful tutorial, easy setup and your command scripts are brilliant smart.gif LiveXP booted to full desktop in under 30 seconds from the boot menu and everything worked as expected. I can't wait to try your other tutorials and programs, thank you for this great service and keep up the good work cheers.gif

Thanks for your appreciation smile.gif

Your Tutorial on LiveXP and on using BootSDI.img files has helped me a lot in realising this result. smile.gif
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=4111

The pre-packaged Downloads of WinBuilder for making BootSDI.img files were also very useful to me.
magic12kenneth
QUOTE (jaclaz @ Aug 11 2008, 02:32 AM) *
Most probably you introduced some changes or took a "wrong" choice in the procedure.

What you should do is (for the moment wink.gif) FORGET about BOOTIMG.CMD.

You should have on your stick:
NTLDR
NTDETECT.COM
grldr <- from grub4dos
SETUPLDR.BIN <- unmodified from Server 2003 SP1 or R2 NOT SP2
BootSDI.img

BOOT.INI with this content:
CODE
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=C:\grldr
[operating systems]
C:\grldr="grub4dos"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\Windows="Windows XP on HD" /fastdetect


menu.lst with this content:
CODE
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
timeout 30
default 0

title SETUPLDR.BIN
find --set-root /BootSDI.img
chainloader /setupldr.bin

title Back to NTLDR
find --set-root /BootSDI.img
chainloader /ntldr


WINNT.SIF with this content:
CODE
[SetupData]
BootDevice="ramdisk(0)"
BootPath="\i386\System32\"
OsLoadOptions="/noguiboot /fastdetect /minint /rdexportashd /rdpath=BootSDIimg"


Get grub4dos 14-05-2008 here:
http://grub4dos.jot.com/WikiHome
http://grub4dos.jot.com/WikiHome/grub4dos-...-2008-05-14.zip?

What happens?

jaclaz


Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I was a bit busy working with Wimb on how to use USB_XP_Setup so I can write a tutorial for other users.

I put all the files in my USB stick. I boot it my computer from USB drive. I get an error message "NTLDR Fatal Error 1 reading boot.ini.

Note that I can boot from DOS or Linux from this Sony USB stick. I have Windows XP SP3 on my C: hard drive.

Kenneth
jaclaz
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 13 2008, 07:34 PM) *
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I was a bit busy working with Wimb on how to use USB_XP_Setup so I can write a tutorial for other users.

I put all the files in my USB stick. I boot it my computer from USB drive. I get an error message "NTLDR Fatal Error 1 reading boot.ini.

Note that I can boot from DOS or Linux from this Sony USB stick. I have Windows XP SP3 on my C: hard drive.

Kenneth


That is VERY strange. unsure.gif

Delete ALL files from the stick.
Copy to it (in this order):
NTLDR
NTDETECT.COM
BOOT.INI

Try booting from it, you should get to the BOOT.INI choices.

Is it possible that a BOOT.INI copied and pasted from the board is not valid?

Use NOTEPAD, and make sure that you save the file as a "normal" .txt file, ANSI, NOT UTF-8, NOT UNICODE, NOT Big-Endian UNICODE.

jaclaz
magic12kenneth
QUOTE (jaclaz @ Aug 19 2008, 06:42 AM) *
That is VERY strange. unsure.gif

Delete ALL files from the stick.
Copy to it (in this order):
NTLDR
NTDETECT.COM
BOOT.INI

Try booting from it, you should get to the BOOT.INI choices.

Is it possible that a BOOT.INI copied and pasted from the board is not valid?

Use NOTEPAD, and make sure that you save the file as a "normal" .txt file, ANSI, NOT UTF-8, NOT UNICODE, NOT Big-Endian UNICODE.

jaclaz


I'll try it tonight after work. I did find out something that is interesting.

I have three USB flash drive. Sony is 130MB, No_Brand_1 is 230MB, and No_Brand_2 is 1G. The BIOS see both Sony and No_Brand_1 drives as a removable drive while No_Brand_2 drive as USB HDD.

It can boot using No_Brand_2 drive but not the other two. What is your conclusion on this?

Kenneth
Lancelot
magic12kenneth

in usb device section of your bios, change setting from auto to hd.

For example if you use asus p5b
Bios-->Advanced-->USB Configuration-->Legacy USB Support-->USB Mass Storage Device Configuration-->Emulation Type-->Auto
change Auto to Harddisk

ps: "asus p5b" bios is only for help purpose of what you are looking for in bios, if you have diff. motherboard/bios, you should find this in the way it writes in your bios.

thumbup.gif
magic12kenneth
QUOTE (jaclaz @ Aug 19 2008, 06:42 AM) *
That is VERY strange. unsure.gif

Delete ALL files from the stick.
Copy to it (in this order):
NTLDR
NTDETECT.COM
BOOT.INI

Try booting from it, you should get to the BOOT.INI choices.

Is it possible that a BOOT.INI copied and pasted from the board is not valid?

Use NOTEPAD, and make sure that you save the file as a "normal" .txt file, ANSI, NOT UTF-8, NOT UNICODE, NOT Big-Endian UNICODE.

jaclaz


It's the same result. Complianting it can't read Boot.ini. I use Windows notepad and verify it was save as ANSI. I guess most likely have to do with the usb drive. At least I got one of them.

Kenneth
magic12kenneth
QUOTE (Lancelot @ Aug 19 2008, 02:32 PM) *
magic12kenneth

in usb device section of your bios, change setting from auto to hd.

For example if you use asus p5b
Bios-->Advanced-->USB Configuration-->Legacy USB Support-->USB Mass Storage Device Configuration-->Emulation Type-->Auto
change Auto to Harddisk

ps: "asus p5b" bios is only for help purpose of what you are looking for in bios, if you have diff. motherboard/bios, you should find this in the way it writes in your bios.

thumbup.gif


Unfortunately my bios doesn't have that option. Thanks for the tip. It will be useful for the future.

Kenneth
jaclaz
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 20 2008, 11:16 AM) *
It's the same result. Complianting it can't read Boot.ini. I use Windows notepad and verify it was save as ANSI. I guess most likely have to do with the usb drive. At least I got one of them.

Kenneth


Is the PC you are testing with a notebook?

Many notebooks have "strange" BIOSes.

You can try if the "Removable" bit can be flipped.

First thing run against the USB sticks this app:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=4661

Post results, I may be able to find the appropriate "Manufacturer's tool".

Of course, should I be able to find it/them. installing the tool(s) and attempting to flip the bit is ENTIRELY at your own risk. wink.gif

jaclaz
magic12kenneth
Hi All,

I successfully booting LiveXP from USB drive and install Windows XP with the XP source folder located in USB drive.

Next I wanted to learn and see if I can install Windows XP with the XP source folder located in the USB drive but boot off LiveXP from the hard drive. Here is my process of doing it.

1. Boot LiveXP from hard drive.
2. Once in LiveXP, I do a quick format.
3. Run USB_Setup_XP.cmd
4. I select E:\XP3 folder for Windows Source folder. (E: is usb drive)
5. I select C: drive as the target Windows XP installation drive.
6. Type Y to include the migrate.inf
7. I reboot my computer.
8. I select Windows XP setup from the boot menu.
9. While Windows Setup loading for 20 seconds or so I get this error message:

"Insert the CD labled: "Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 CD" in the cde-rom drive.

Any reasons why I'm getting this?

Kenneth
Lancelot
magic12kenneth

can you write your motherboard model, or notebook model..
jaclaz
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 20 2008, 12:02 PM) *
"Insert the CD labled: "Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 CD" in the cde-rom drive.

Any reasons why I'm getting this?


That is typically related to missing "tag files", though they should not be needed if installing from $WIN_NT$.~BT.

Some info about tag files:
http://www.msfn.org/board/Edit-txtsetupsif...o-M-t65541.html

jaclaz
wimb
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 20 2008, 12:02 PM) *
9. While Windows Setup loading for 20 seconds or so I get this error message:

"Insert the CD labled: "Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 CD" in the cde-rom drive.

Any reasons why I'm getting this?

Kenneth

Could it be that you connected your USB-stick after Booting with LiveXP from C-HDD ?

Read Help_USB_XP_Setup.txt

QUOTE
List of Known Errors and Solution

TXT-mode Setup Memory/CD-Error means harddisk nr in SetupSourceDevice is incorrect
This is due to Hardware Configuration Change on Reboot.
Try to disconnect ZIP-drive, Cardreader or use different USB-port.

This can also occur when connecting USB-drive AFTER Booting with PE or XP
XP Setup may fail - due to XP Source Harddisk Number Change on Reboot
In this case Reboot with PE and USB-drive CONNECTED to Reset Harddisk Number
Run USB_XP_SETUP.cmd again to get correct SetupSourceDevice in TXTSETUP.SIF
magic12kenneth
QUOTE (Lancelot @ Aug 20 2008, 03:04 AM) *
magic12kenneth

can you write your motherboard model, or notebook model..


The motherboard model is Asus A7N8X-VM. It's n-Force-2 chipset.

Kenneth
magic12kenneth
QUOTE (jaclaz @ Aug 20 2008, 02:26 AM) *
Is the PC you are testing with a notebook?

Many notebooks have "strange" BIOSes.

You can try if the "Removable" bit can be flipped.

First thing run against the USB sticks this app:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=4661

Post results, I may be able to find the appropriate "Manufacturer's tool".

Of course, should I be able to find it/them. installing the tool(s) and attempting to flip the bit is ENTIRELY at your own risk. wink.gif

jaclaz


It's a desktop with the n-Force-2 chipset. I'll give it try and see what happen.

How does the BIOS determines if it a USB drive is a removable disk or fixed HDD?

Kenneth

Lancelot
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 20 2008, 08:30 PM) *
..
How does the BIOS determines if it a USB drive is a removable disk or fixed HDD?


Thanks a lot for board info
i checked the manuel, yes there is not an option for that in your bios, i wrote it down to my tips now. smile.gif.

Answer is, by looking size, I am not an expert about usb flash disks but it writes in my bios info tip smile.gif.
For a short solution, try using usb flash disk at least 1gb as you already found out.

magic12kenneth
QUOTE (wimb @ Aug 20 2008, 08:43 AM) *
Could it be that you connected your USB-stick after Booting with LiveXP from C-HDD ?

Read Help_USB_XP_Setup.txt


Method 1. This time I removed the USB drive before I reboot the computer to start the XP Setup. However, I still get the same error message but after it loads the drivers. The first time, it didn't go that far.

I thought that the migrated.inf will reassign the USB drive to U: So it wouldn't change the drive order after you reboot.

Method 2. I try again installing Windows XP with the source folder from usb drive after booting LiveXP from USB drive. I get the same error message after XP Setup finish loading the drivers. That's strange because it works before.

I use the same Windows XP setup files for the XP Source. The only thing change is that I use the latest version of USB_XP_Setup.exe from August 14. So maybe whatever change you made in the August 11 version as quoted below:

From your change log, u did change something in the August 11 version

QUOTE
Edit: August 11, 2008 - BOOT_IMG.cmd will make GRUB4DOS Boot Entry for Vista in Store C:\Boot\BCD
Some small changes in USB_XP_Setup for making boot.ini and setting SetupSourcePath in TXTSETUP.SIF


Can you provide a link for me to download the previous version that is dated before August 11? So I can test it again.

Thanks.

Kenneth
wimb
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 21 2008, 09:25 AM) *
I use the same Windows XP setup files for the XP Source.

The problem is NOT your XP Source on USB-drive but the value of Harddisk Number (that is NOT the Drive Letter) in SetupSourceDevice in TXTSETUP.SIF on your C-Harddisk which is set by Running USB_XP_Setup.cmd.

Try Again with:
In this case Reboot with PE and USB-drive CONNECTED to Reset Harddisk Number
Run USB_XP_SETUP.cmd again to get correct SetupSourceDevice in TXTSETUP.SIF

magic12kenneth
QUOTE (wimb @ Aug 21 2008, 10:23 AM) *
The problem is NOT your XP Source on USB-drive but the value of Harddisk Number (that is NOT the Drive Letter) in SetupSourceDevice in TXTSETUP.SIF on your C-Harddisk which is set by Running USB_XP_Setup.cmd.

Try Again with:
In this case Reboot with PE and USB-drive CONNECTED to Reset Harddisk Number
Run USB_XP_SETUP.cmd again to get correct SetupSourceDevice in TXTSETUP.SIF


That didn't do it. I tried several times.

It might have to do with the latest version of USB_XP_Setup that you modify the USB_XP_Setup. Can you provide the previous version so I can verify if this also happens with the previous version that works for me?

Because I didn't have that issue when I first install it from USB drive booting LiveXP from USb drive.

Kenneth
ilko
Check for the correct entries in [data] section in winnt.sif- msdosinitiated and floppyless...The error may come from there too.
wimb
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 21 2008, 07:48 PM) *
It might have to do with the latest version of USB_XP_Setup that you modify the USB_XP_Setup. Can you provide the previous version so I can verify if this also happens with the previous version that works for me?

Because I didn't have that issue when I first install it from USB drive booting LiveXP from USb drive.


Previous Version Download USB_XP_Setup_11aug8

@ilko
msdosinitiated and floppyless are set to 0 by USB_XP_Setup for winnt.sif in $WIN_NT$.~BT folder on Install Drive, but If this file is Changed Afterwards then these values can be wrong ......
magic12kenneth
QUOTE (wimb @ Aug 21 2008, 09:15 PM) *
Previous Version Download USB_XP_Setup_11aug8

@ilko
msdosinitiated and floppyless are set to 0 by USB_XP_Setup for winnt.sif in $WIN_NT$.~BT folder on Install Drive, but If this file is Changed Afterwards then these values can be wrong ......


When I run USB_XP_Setup.cmd in LiveXP, I get this warning message at the end:

QUOTE
"WARNING - Harddisk and Partition Number of XP Source Drive were NOT Found
SetupSourceDevice in TXTSETUP.SIF File could not be set for HDD
XP Setup may fail - Manually Change values in SetupSourceDevice TXTSETUP.SIF"


This is what I have for the [SETUPDATA] in the TXTSETUP.SIF.

QUOTE
[SetupData]
SetupSourcePath = "\"
MajorVersion = 5
MinorVersion = 1
DefaultPath=\WINDOWS


In the WINNT.SIF, I have this values:

QUOTE
[Data]
MsDosInitiated=0
floppyless=0


If there are any other debug information you need, let me know.

This is very strange. It works fine when I was writing the tutorial with the August 11 version.

Thanks wimb. I will try it tomorrow with the older version and let you know.

Kenneth
wimb
**** NEW Release USB_XP_Setup - Version 2.0 ****

Make_USB.cmd copies USB_XP_Setup folder to USB-Drive
Make_USB.cmd can Install PE BootSDI.img file on USB-Drive and on C-Harddisk Install-Drive
Make_USB.cmd Supports to make MultiBoot USB-Drive

Multiple XP Source on USB-Drive e.g. Home + Prof + Tablet PC + Media Center Edition
is Supported by Running Make_USB.cmd several times.

Multiple PE RAMBOOT e.g. LiveXP + BartPE + UBCD4WIN is Supported
by Running Make_USB.cmd several times.

BOOT_IMG.cmd is only needed if you want to Create New PE Boot Image File
OR if you if you don't need to Make an USB-Drive, but just want to
Copy WinBuilder LiveXP BootSDI.img Image file to C-HDD or USB-Drive and want
to make Entry for boot.ini Menu and GRUB4DOS menu.lst for Booting with PE from RAMDISK

See Post #1
wimb
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 22 2008, 09:04 AM) *
When I run USB_XP_Setup.cmd in LiveXP, I get this warning message at the end:
QUOTE
"WARNING - Harddisk and Partition Number of XP Source Drive were NOT Found
SetupSourceDevice in TXTSETUP.SIF File could not be set for HDD
XP Setup may fail - Manually Change values in SetupSourceDevice TXTSETUP.SIF"


Your USB-stick is NOT seen as Harddisk due to wrong BIOS Setting.

Change your BIOS Setting OR use other USB-stick that is seen by BIOS as harddisk.

Reboot with LiveXP from HDD and Run USB_XP_Setup.cmd AGAIN.
magic12kenneth
QUOTE (wimb @ Aug 22 2008, 09:16 PM) *
Your USB-stick is NOT seen as Harddisk due to wrong BIOS Setting.

Change your BIOS Setting OR use other USB-stick that is seen by BIOS as harddisk.

Reboot with LiveXP from HDD and Run USB_XP_Setup.cmd AGAIN.


Method 1: Boot and Install from USB drive
Method 2: Boot and Install from C: Hard drive

That's very strange. It works fine the first time when I use it for writing the tutorial.

Now I use both methods and it doesn't work at all.

As you might know from my previous posts here, the only working USB stick that can boot LiveXP is my 1G USB stick because my BIOS see it as USB hard drive. I didn't change any setting in my BIOS.

I also tried the Aug11 version and it's the same. I even reset the BIOS to default.

Method 2 should work since it is a regular hard drive. It shouldn't try to verify if it is a usb hard drive or not.

This can be confusing.

In the Disk Management, USB flash drive is labeled as Removable below the drive icon. But in my BIOS see it as USB hard drive because when I select my boot sequence I can only either select my regular hard drive or my usb flash drive as boot device for hard drive.

Oh well... Maybe I guess my only option is to manually edit textsetup.sif. Can you give me the code on what I need to edit for both methods?

Thanks again.

Kenneth
wimb
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 23 2008, 10:55 AM) *
Oh well... Maybe I guess my only option is to manually edit textsetup.sif. Can you give me the code on what I need to edit. One for the XP source on USB drive and the other one for XP source on partition 1 C: hard drive. Do I need to change the TEXTSETUP.TIF in root C: and C:\$WIN_NT$.~BT?

Connect your USB-stick, then Boot with LiveXP from HDD.

Use Disk Manager to determine harddisk nr of your USB-stick.
If your USB-stick is NOT visible in Disk Manager then your USB-stick is NOT seen as Harddisk
and your problem cannot be solved this way.

Otherwise:
Open C:\TXTSETUP.SIF in notepad.
Search for SetupSource and edit according to

[SetupData]
SetupSourcePath = "\XPPRO\"
SetupSourceDevice = \device\harddisk1\partition1

where you use for XPPRO your XP Source folder name and
for harddisk1 your harddisk nr of your XP Source.

Save TXTSETUP.SIF and Copy TXTSETUP.SIF of Root to C:\$WIN_NT$.~BT
magic12kenneth
QUOTE (wimb @ Aug 23 2008, 02:27 AM) *
Connect your USB-stick, then Boot with LiveXP from HDD.

Use Disk Manager to determine harddisk nr of your USB-stick.
If your USB-stick is NOT visible in Disk Manager then your USB-stick is NOT seen as Harddisk
and your problem cannot be solved this way.

Otherwise:
Open C:\TXTSETUP.SIF in notepad.
Search for SetupSource and edit according to

[SetupData]
SetupSourcePath = "\XPPRO\"
SetupSourceDevice = \device\harddisk1\partition1

where you use for XPPRO your XP Source folder name and
for harddisk1 your harddisk nr of your XP Source.

Save TXTSETUP.SIF and Copy TXTSETUP.SIF of Root to C:\$WIN_NT$.~BT


I'll give it try.

But I still don't understand why I'm getting this error message if I boot LiveXP from hard drive with the XP source on C: (partition 1) hard drive. I don't have my USB drive inserted. I only have one hard drive with two partitions in the computer. The XP source folder is on Partion 1 called XP.

I'm trying to understand why it doesn't detect it. If it doesn't detect it, then USB_SETUP_XP.cmd shouldn't be able to see and copy the files from my C:\XP folder to create the boot folder.

Kenneth
wimb
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 23 2008, 12:46 PM) *
I'll give it try.

But I still don't understand why I'm getting this error message if I boot LiveXP from hard drive with the XP source on C: (partition 1) hard drive. I don't have my USB drive inserted. I only have one hard drive with two partitions in the computer. The XP source folder is on Partion 1 called XP.

I'm trying to understand why it doesn't detect it. If it doesn't detect it, then USB_SETUP_XP.cmd shouldn't be able to see and copy the files from my C:\XP folder to create the boot folder.

Kenneth
What value is the harddisk number with C-drive as visible in Disk Manager ?

What is written in TXTSETUP.SIF in Root of C-drive after Running USB_XP_Setup.cmd
instead of:

[SetupData]
SetupSourcePath = "\XPPRO\"
SetupSourceDevice = \device\harddisk1\partition1

Can you possibly supply an image of your Disk Manager window ?

Can you give as Attachment your file USB_XP_Setup\makebt\dplist.txt AFTER Reboot with LiveXP and running USB_XP_Setup.cmd.

The file USB_XP_Setup\makebt\dplist.txt is produced by MBRWiz.exe and is used to determine the harddisk number of your XP Source Drive.

You can check if MBRWiz.exe is doing its work well by:
- Open Command Window at USB_XP_Setup\makebt folder
- Run the command: MBRWiz /list
magic12kenneth
QUOTE (wimb @ Aug 23 2008, 10:25 AM) *
What value is the harddisk number with C-drive as visible in Disk Manager ?

What is written in TXTSETUP.SIF in Root of C-drive after Running USB_XP_Setup.cmd
instead of:

[SetupData]
SetupSourcePath = "\XPPRO\"
SetupSourceDevice = \device\harddisk1\partition1

Can you possibly supply an image of your Disk Manager window ?

Can you give as Attachment your file USB_XP_Setup\makebt\dplist.txt AFTER Reboot with LiveXP and running USB_XP_Setup.cmd.

The file USB_XP_Setup\makebt\dplist.txt is produced by MBRWiz.exe and is used to determine the harddisk number of your XP Source Drive.

You can check if MBRWiz.exe is doing its work well by:
- Open Command Window at USB_XP_Setup\makebt folder
- Run the command: MBRWiz /list


What value is the harddisk number with C-drive as visible in Disk Manager?

As far I remember, the value of my hard drive see by Disk Manager is disk 0 with partition 1 and partition 2.


What is written in TXTSETUP.SIF in Root of C-drive after Running USB_XP_Setup.cmd

[SetupData]
SetupSourcePath = "\"
Major....


Can you possibly supply an image of your Disk Manager window?

I use WinBuilder 0.95 Beta 4 with the minium version. When you supply an image of your disk Manager window, do you mean a screenshoot? If so, I will have to install a snapshoot tool.

I will have to do it again to get the other information you need. I'll let you know tomorrow.

I did manually edit the textsetup.tif with disk0 and partition 1. Everything works.

Kenneth
wimb
QUOTE (magic12kenneth @ Aug 24 2008, 09:04 AM) *
Can you possibly supply an image of your Disk Manager window?

I use WinBuilder 0.95 Beta 4 with the minium version. When you supply an image of your disk Manager window, do you mean a screenshoot? If so, I will have to install a snapshoot tool.

I will have to do it again to get the other information you need. I'll let you know tomorrow.

I did manually edit the textsetup.tif with disk0 and partition 1. Everything works.

Kenneth

Nice to hear that Manual Edit did work for you.
But now we have to find out why USB_XP_Setup.cmd with MBRWiz.exe did not work for you.

The dplist.txt file will give a lot of info for me and is may be sufficient.

The screenshot of Disk Manager is obtained by pressing [Alt][PrintScrn]
and then Paste the Clipboard in IrfanView or Paint.

So in LiveXP R-mouse on This Computer > Computer Management > Disk Manager
Enlarge Screen till you see all Disks and Press [Alt][PrintScrn]

You need an image program like IrfanView or Paint (launch from somewhere)
and use Paste to copy the Clipboard.
Then Save your Disk Manager Screenshot as JPG filetype.

But for now the dplist.txt will be already sufficient.
magic12kenneth
QUOTE (wimb @ Aug 24 2008, 12:41 AM) *
Nice to hear that Manual Edit did work for you.
But now we have to find out why USB_XP_Setup.cmd with MBRWiz.exe did not work for you.

The dplist.txt file will give a lot of info for me and is may be sufficient.

The screenshot of Disk Manager is obtained by pressing [Alt][PrintScrn]
and then Paste the Clipboard in IrfanView or Paint.

So in LiveXP R-mouse on This Computer > Computer Management > Disk Manager
Enlarge Screen till you see all Disks and Press [Alt][PrintScrn]

You need an image program like IrfanView or Paint (launch from somewhere)
and use Paste to copy the Clipboard.
Then Save your Disk Manager Screenshot as JPG filetype.

But for now the dplist.txt will be already sufficient.


Here is the dplist.txt that you requested. I didn't disconnect my 2nd hard drive (disk 1) this time.

Disk 0 is the hard drive with two partitions
Disk 1 is the hard drive with one partition
Disk 2 is the USB drive

I couldn't take a screenshot because I didn't install any graphic viewer installed with LiveXP. However, I verify that it is the same as it is shown in Disk Manager.

Kenneth
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