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 rawral
post Jan 31 2009, 09:31 PM
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http://eyeos.org/

http://eyeos.com/en/concept
http://eyeos.com/en/development
http://eyeos.com/en/public-environments


OPEN SOURCE PLATFORM
http://eyeos.org/en
http://eyeos.org/en/downloads

http://wiki.eyeos.org/EyeOS_Apps
http://wiki.eyeos.org/Screenshots
http://wiki.eyeos.org/Developers

http://dev.eyeos.org/en

try it out !! http://eyeos.info

... maybe thats enough links for now

looks cool
+seem to be very usable

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 Nuno Brito
post Jan 31 2009, 09:50 PM
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This is actually looking good.. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif)

I can actually see it replacing the way how we currently work at an office nowadays.

Still needs some extra polish but the included apps are working kind of good for most basic needs.

Too bad that it's still quite difficult to convince people to drop their faithful windows workstation onto a new platform like this even knowing that it would be immune to viruses or allow it's use as a portable environment in the true sense of the word.

Maybe one day this option can indeed become reality for most of us.

Also, I like the fact that it's free.. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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 jaclaz
post Feb 1 2009, 11:43 AM
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As often happens, I almost, but not quite, fully disagree. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I don't like misnaming. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

An OS, as I see it is something that is loaded through the BIOS.

This appears to me more like a portable system, only online.

VERY, VERY nice (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) , but definitely not an OS, not a new definition of Operating System, a new way to use web technology, not really different from Remote Desktop, or VNC's....

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 Nuno Brito
post Feb 1 2009, 12:17 PM
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An OS, as I see it is something that is loaded through the BIOS.

ahah.. we've got to evolve from the BIOS dependency sooner or later otherwise we'll just end up like the dinosaurs that roam around big cities every now and then.. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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VERY, VERY nice, but definitely not an OS, not a new definition of Operating System, a new way to use web technology, not really different from Remote Desktop, or VNC's....

Well.. VNC and remote Desktop still eat up a lot of network bandwidth, use a lot of RAM/CPU resources and require in most cases the install of specific software that will surely be buggy and problematic when mixed with different work platforms. Not a good solution to deploy for hundreds of users logged at the same time.

With this model, you only need a browser and get online from any device to see your workspace, no worries about the OS layer beneath it as it can be kept as simple as possible.

I kind of like the idea, less work to install the usual office apps, less viruses to deal with the space where the critical files are stored.

With some luck, an admin panel would even allow to control the CPU/RAM/Disk size quotas for each group of users.

Would also be nice to see available a set of common folders to store files for each user group to share their work with the other group members.

Who knows? This could really become a nifty work app.

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 jaclaz
post Feb 1 2009, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (Nuno Brito @ Feb 1 2009, 02:17 PM) *
:ahah.. we've got to evolve from the BIOS dependency sooner or later otherwise we'll just end up like the dinosaurs that roam around big cities every now and then.. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Wrong example (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/happy22.gif) , think about sharks, crocodiles, turtles and a few other animals that did not need to evolve, as they are pretty much efficient now, exactly as they were long before even the first dinosaur was born.....:
http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/e..._s_predator.htm


QUOTE (Nuno Brito @ Feb 1 2009, 02:17 PM) *
With this model, you only need a browser and get online from any device to see your workspace, no worries about the OS layer beneath it as it can be kept as simple as possible.

Not so slight correction:
With this model, you only need a good OS, capable to manage your local hardware, to boot from, and a browser and get online from any device to see your workspace, no worries about the OS layer beneath it as it can be kept as simple as possible.

As said, nice (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but not an OS.

When and if devices will have "internet PXE" we'll talk again about something like it being an OS.

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 Nuno Brito
post Feb 1 2009, 01:49 PM
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bahh.. you're right as always.. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

There goes my happy day dreaming for a "better" world, thank you! (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/roll1.gif)
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 jaclaz
post Feb 1 2009, 02:32 PM
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Resistance is useless!

not to be confused with

Resistance is futile!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistance_is_futile

The paternity of the line is probably once again to be given to a (sadly (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) now "extinct" dinosaur, R.I.P.), Douglas Adams, who used it in his Hitchhiker's Guide, and Doctor Who episodes, or maybe even to some previous Author of Doctor Who :
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=26866

Unlike Borg's, I could actually be convinced of being wrong, and rest assured I would tell this to my aunt....:
http://www.clivebanks.co.uk/THHGTTG/THHGTTGradio2.htm

but I simply LOVE the SHOUTING! (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

...and hours are not bad either.... (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

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 Nuno Brito
post Feb 1 2009, 04:28 PM
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Yes, right. I bet your vogon family is proud of you now.. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/smiling9.gif)
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 rawral
post Feb 12 2009, 12:20 PM
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jaclaz & nuno ,
this is a rather interesting \ entertaining discussion


... strangely the user-Storage + 'workspace' / OS separation is

really one of the main reasons for having a more active interest in using

customized windows: n-lite /pe /bartPE+xpe /winbuilder (and as i now own vista{ license (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) } =S possibly waik/pe2 /beta7 ect ) ect

fyi other reasons being
-hdd-being slow(compare with other advances eg cpu mhz )
-file system fragmentation nightmare's (os and user's data on one partition)

it will shore be interesting to see how the web-desk top's develop / evolve
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 Nuno Brito
post Feb 12 2009, 12:29 PM
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I would use this idea from the perspective that it would be simpler to maintain.

When you get a lot of workstations to fix, this would ensure that the work documents would be nicely stored at the server and that the broken workstation can have a brand new OS installed without bothering with too much customization. (Installing antivirus, office apps, custom apps, etc, etc)

Also, it could help workstations to become OS agnostic, you'd be able to use some open source distribution without extra license costs.

eyeOS might not be an OS as Jaclaz wisely mentioned, but it would help centralize a lot of things together and would likely make my day a bit easier to pass.. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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