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> norton AntiVirus Gaming Edition - Protection that wonít slow you down, it is not a joke!
 
 billonious
post Nov 28 2008, 07:44 PM
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it is the funny www of the day, and the best of all is that it comes from company's site.

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Norton AntiVirus Gaming Edition - Winning Protection that wonít slow you down.
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Considering myself a suspicious (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/dubbio.gif) & vinegarish person, I conceive it as :
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After one million complaints, under four years of dramatical downfall of sales and being afraid of loosing our job, we confess that our products are useless, we are forced to offer a lite antivirus, in the hope off being competitive enough to stay alive. Please, buy people, please. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/help.gif)


have fun (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/celebrate14.gif)
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 Nuno Brito
post Nov 28 2008, 08:16 PM
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Ahahah... (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/roll1.gif)

4 years to figure that Norton was making the computer slower than any antivirus would?!? (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I remember the first NAV's when they were real life-saver tools.

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 billonious
post Nov 28 2008, 08:22 PM
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I remember the first NAV's when they were real life-saver tools.
do you remember norton utilities, norton commander, eehhh norton disk editor, oooh I have forgotten. Alzheimer amnesia for me too.
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 ilko
post Nov 28 2008, 08:23 PM
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I guess they bought again someone else's product, which product is going to be screwed up in every possible way as soon as they start "improving" it.

In other hand I shouldn't be complaining, considering the revenue Norton AV brought me, either by missing malware or screwing up access to secure web pages when the preinstalled trial versions expire. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Offtopic- this reminded be for a client, a regular extremely bored small company secretary, who was launching Live Update twice a day and was writing in special notebooks for the purpose all the output from the live update window- "connecting to liveupdate server, downloading blah blah, xxxxxx bytes downloaded..." and all that stuff. She had like 4 or 5 thick notebooks, full of live update logs (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/roll1.gif)
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post Nov 28 2008, 09:02 PM
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... was writing in special notebooks for the purpose all the output from the live update window...
Ohh, I see that this secretery is skilled in bureaucracy . Here, in greece, public servants have phds in bureaucracy & laziness . To be placed in public services, you only need to study the encyclopedia "How to weasel out in job, be paid and do always nothing." (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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 Nuno Brito
post Nov 28 2008, 10:48 PM
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I seriously enjoyed the software from Peter Norton.

NDD (Norton Disk Doctor) was a excellent good tool along with other utilities that made your everyday work with DOS a lot easier indeed, I was even proud and would recommend it to my friends.

Then came windows 9x and Norton Utilities was still excellent to clean up the registry errors and junk, windows really depended on these tools to stay in shape for an extended period of time.

For some years to this time, I rarely heard again from Norton Utilities again and it seemed like all effort was moved onto the security factor.

This security factor is genial, you make desktop computers way too slow to be of any interest in being used as a zombie machine by any self-respecting virus.

Nowadays the first thing I do when a friend of my asks for help is removing NAV from their computer (whenever NAV allows this, but I remember that another member already mentioned a tool capable of removing it completely)

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 JonF
post Nov 29 2008, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE (Nuno Brito @ Nov 28 2008, 05:48 PM) *
(whenever NAV allows this, but I remember that another member already mentioned a tool capable of removing it completely)

Norton Removal Tool. I've had several occasions to use it.
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 jaclaz
post Nov 29 2008, 11:32 AM
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Sometimes GOOD companies start with exceptionally good products, and then fail miserably over the years in delivering anything up to the level of the other companies.
In the good ol' DOS days, there was NOTHING (except maybe XTREE and PCTOOLS) even comparable to Norton products:
Norton Commander was the best file manager EVER. (and till today the OFM's go strong):
http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/index.shtml

NDD for DOS was the best disk tool.

Norton Utilities were the best utilities you could have.

When the Windows era came, and I mean "real" windows, 3.x version (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) , there was nothing, and I mean nothing as useful as Norton Desktop.

When Win95 came, Norton made a (GOOD) Norton Commander for W9x, which suddenly was taken off the market.

Norton utilities 2, the version for Win9x/NT 4.00 while still good, started to be partially unuseful/awkward to use.

Anything after it started being bloated.....

...the only exception being GHOST (of course pretty much DOSish), that still is going rather strong.

Norton Antivirus started as well as a quite good DOS program, but since say 2002 (i.e. when the number of PC's started to explode) it became a mass of bloat:
http://www.computergripes.com/symantec.html

The "shift" happened probably because Peter Norton, who was really, really one of the greatest PC experts in the world, left the executives and marketing departments manage the development and the company overgrew. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I will never believe that Peter Norton himself could have ever approved the way Symantec apps now behave.

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 Lancelot
post Nov 30 2008, 02:09 AM
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just few lines adding to jacklazz comments
I still rarely use nc.exe (136kb) which works faster than nc4 and nc5 (yes i know, nc4 - 5 are more powerfull, but i use mostly for browse).
yes symantec guys does really bad things (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
they did baaad things to ghost too, they first changed ghost working method after ghost7, and they did a crayz thing to seperate companies and home users with ghost2xxx series (ghost2xxx lowered ghost reputation)

Now they changed strategy, after ghost11 (i guess now 11.5), they rewrite a partition utility but still name it as ghost and sell ghost12-13-14 for homeuser, and for companies they sell "Symantec Backup Exec System Recovery".

and also, they bought partition magic (power quest) looong while ago, but didnt add much thing on it.

ahhh Peter Norton, you make us love Norton products, but your followers made us (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/ranting2.gif)
I wish Peter Norton choose jaclaz for his chair before leaving. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/smart.gif)

ps: Info on this pm are mostly what i feel from my experience, please check with google fu to get precise info. I never follow symantec strategies ( ex: still using ghost7 :>. )
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