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Setup for Basic Ethernet?, Tips Needed for LiveXP Build . . .
Squid
post Sep 3 2008, 03:01 PM
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Good day, folks.

Just needed to know what networking scripts/configs are necessary to set up LiveXP for basic Ethernet connectivity without any other tools/features ;o)

Simply put, I want to auto-detect the network at boot; and be able to connect to the web through OffByOne without any fuss...

Thanks!
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post Sep 3 2008, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE (Squid @ Sep 3 2008, 05:01 PM) *
Good day, folks.

Just needed to know what networking scripts/configs are necessary to set up LiveXP for basic Ethernet connectivity without any other tools/features ;o)

Simply put, I want to auto-detect the network at boot; and be able to connect to the web through OffByOne without any fuss...

Thanks!


That depends what kind of PE you want to use
  • If you want to boot into an emulator, you need the emulator's NIC driver (contained in LivePE project recommended)
  • If you want to boot from a CD on the system where you created the PE, during build you have to copy the current host's driver into the PE. You can use myNIC to generate 'your personal NIC' script
  • If you want to boot from a CD on any system, during boot you have to copy the current host's driver into the PE. You can use hostNic.script (contained in LiveXP complete) to prepare this task.
In all of the three cases you need additional PENetwork.Script (contained in LiveXP recommende)

#3 seems to be waht you want.

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post Sep 3 2008, 03:50 PM
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@psc:

Thanks for the info!

I think I understand (and, yes, #3 is what I need ;o).

So, what I have done with the build is:

  1. Selected "PENetwork" under Apps > Network. All default settings are in place.
  2. Under Drivers > Network, I have selected "hostNIC" ONLY; and may now remove all other selections from the build.

Is this correct?

Thank you again . . .
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post Sep 3 2008, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (Squid @ Sep 3 2008, 04:50 PM) *
@psc:

Thanks for the info!

I think I understand (and, yes, #3 is what I need ;o).

So, what I have done with the build is:

  1. Selected "PENetwork" under Apps > Network. All default settings are in place.
  2. Under Drivers > Network, I have selected "hostNIC" ONLY; and may now remove all other selections from the build.

Is this correct?

Thank you again . . .

As far as I see 'in my mind' this is correct.
(But I do not know the PENetwork default settings. Maybe you look at them with some 'intelligence')

Good luck!

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post Sep 3 2008, 08:54 PM
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Squid:

look at penetwork settings with some 'intelligence' ---means---> there is "add drivers from this directory" setting there. I missed that in my first days of livexp too (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

also you can use hostnic to gain more mobility, and using search in bootland leads to nice answers (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 3 2008, 09:37 PM
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Thank you both for the input.

I'll give it a try; and see what happens (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 5 2008, 04:15 PM
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Good day.

My first query concerning proper setup/configuration for basic Ethernet with LiveXP was created here.

Now that I have those recommended settings in place for my build, I wind up with a "No network cards detected" error from the PENetwork script when it has executed after boot.

Any suggestions? Is there another checkbox lurking out there somewhere which'll allow successful NIC detection?

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post Sep 8 2008, 04:15 PM
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Good day.

Well, after a number of no-comment "drive-bys" from the community at my previous post, I decided to dig a bit and see if there was any way to hotwire some network connectivity into LiveXP.

I proceeded in accord with info taken from one of psc's old hostNIC postings; http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...ost&p=25402 --

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There has been a trial of Amalux, to use myNic.exe inside a PE here. That's really senceless.
Introduced by Amalux's trial, there has been a 'crazy idea' of MedEvil, to 'steel' drivers from the host here
Introduced by both, there has been a developer (me) to finish the team's work:

The result is a new hostNIC.Script. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/yahoo.gif)
You can download it from the nativeEx server.

To test:

* Remove all NIC (including emulator) drivers from your project
* Make your PE drive writable (BootSDI or FBWF)
* Build the project, hostNIC.Script included
* Burn a CD (cannot be tested in emulator because of missing host HDDs)
* Start the CD
o It will give an error message by PENetwork, that there is no network card
o Start Programs > nativeEx > hostNIC
o If necessary, change the default WinDir to your host's conditions
(If you see your driver's description in the topmost scroll box, do not change anything)
o Click 'Install'
o Run PENetwork
It will find your host's NIC and you have network connection!

I think that the same or similar procederes can be used for different (SATA, USB, ...) drivers.
I'll work on this.

As a result, like Nuno already posted, it may be possible, that with a minimum preinstalled drivers, you can access 'every host'. (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/roll1.gif)

Thanks to Amalux and MedEvil (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/thumbup.gif)

Peter

Two separate (and entirely different) machines were used for the succeeding test.

Both booted to the build CD normally; bearing the usual complaint from PENetwork stating that it "will be exit now" (grammar?).

Anyway, I ran the hostNIC applet directly on both machines from their respective start menus. Both attempts to install the network drivers for the LiveXP session failed IDENTICALLY.

Here's the first machine's hostNIC log:
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Version 1.1.0
Using inf file: D:\Windows\inf\netrtsnt.inf
Schedule for Copy: "D:\Windows\inf\netrtsnt.inf" to folder X:\i386\Inf\
Start section: "RTL8139.ndi"
Searching real entry sections:
Found: RTL8139.ndi
Found: RTL8139.ndi.Services
Working with section: RTL8139.ndi
Working with copy section: RTL8139.CopyFiles
Schedule for Copy: "D:\Windows\system32\drivers\RTL8139.sys" to folder "X:\i386\system32\drivers\"
Working with section: RTL8139.ndi.Services
Checking: rtsnt.Service
Schedule for Copy: "D:\Windows\system32\drivers\RTL8139.SYS" to folder "X:\i386\system32\drivers\"
Copying scheduled files ...

Now, the second machine's hostNIC log:
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Version 1.1.0
Using inf file: C:\Windows\inf\oem1.inf
Schedule for Copy: "C:\Windows\inf\oem1.inf" to folder X:\i386\Inf\
Start section: "XP_D110K.ndi"
Searching real entry sections:
Found: XP_D110K.ndi.NTx86
Found: XP_D110K.ndi.NTx86.Services
Found: XP_D110K.ndi.NTx86.CoInstallers
Working with section: XP_D110K.ndi.NTx86
Working with copy section: E100B_325.ndis5.CopyFiles
Schedule for Copy: "C:\Windows\system32\drivers\e100b325.sys" to folder "X:\i386\system32\drivers\"
Working with copy section: UninstallW2k.CopyFiles
Schedule for Copy: "C:\Windows\system32\Prounstl.exe" to folder "X:\i386\system32\"
Schedule for Copy: "C:\Windows\system32\e100b325.din" to folder "X:\i386\system32\"
Working with section: XP_D110K.ndi.NTx86.Services
Checking: e100b325.Service
Schedule for Copy: "C:\Windows\system32\drivers\e100b325.sys" to folder "X:\i386\system32\drivers\"
Working with section: XP_D110K.ndi.NTx86.CoInstallers
Working with copy section: CoInstaller_CopyFiles
Schedule for Copy: "C:\Windows\system32\IntelNic.dll" to folder "X:\i386\system32\"
Schedule for Copy: "C:\Windows\system32\e100bmsg.dll" to folder "X:\i386\system32\"
Copying scheduled files ...

After the readout "Copying scheduled files ..." both attempts failed with the following message:
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File access denied.

The only thing which these two machines had in common was the running copy of LiveXP and hostNIC.

What's the problem? What's the fix?
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post Sep 9 2008, 09:04 AM
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look here
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5213

also
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How to add ethernet drivers to LiveXP:
in penetwork settings with some 'intelligence' , there is "add drivers from this directory" section, where you can add your (or a set of) ethernet drivers.


and look 'Lancelot Tips' in my signature
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post Sep 9 2008, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE (Squid @ Sep 8 2008, 06:15 PM) *
What's the problem? What's the fix?

For me it looks like your boot drive (CD?) is not writable.
You must use
  • either BootSDI.script
  • or MakeISO.script with option FBWF checked
Peter
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