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Alexei
post Oct 8 2007, 11:43 PM
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I'm thinking about Virtual PC with a "saved" VM as a shell (IMG:http://www.boot-land.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
So, it's gonna be like that:
- PE starts and loads drivers
- User configurates network
- Virtual PC starts in full screen mode and restores saved VM (fully functional XP or whatever you saved) (IMG:http://www.boot-land.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I already tried this approach running full XP under Virtual PC. It boots very slow, but when booted it eventually becomes faster as more modules is uploaded to the ram.
That's why I'm going to use saved image of the OS.
Of course, VMware (and, maybe QEMU) can be used as well.

I am not sure which project to choose as a base for such build.
The build should have:
- maximum hardware compatibility
- networking support
- some support to troubleshoot hardware issues
- probably, RDC client (I noticed graphics over RDC is faster then in VM window)

The major advantage is that you can run any OS with minimum restrictions. Applications' scripts become obsolete (IMG:http://www.boot-land.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

There are a lot of flexibility: for ex. you can have PE on CD or DVD and your VM on USB drive, you can use undo feature if desired. You can normally run your OS on your desktop computer, copy virtual HDD to a flash drive and take it whereever you go.
Small PE (on a 80mm CD) plus flash drive would easily fit into your pocket, though, of course, you can have both PE and guest OS on the same medium.

Both VPC and VMware claim to be less then 10% slower than on a "bare metal", so it's not a big deal (IMG:http://www.boot-land.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

There are many other advantages, such as having virtual HDD as a compressed file, etc.

The questions I have:
- Which WB project is the best to start with?
- Did QEMU fix the bugs that did not allow VPC and other VMs to run on Win under QEMU (for testing) ?
- I wrote a script to run Virtual PC 2004 on PE a while ago. Does anybody willing to make such scripts for VMware, etc.?
VMware on PE, not PE on VMware (IMG:http://www.boot-land.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

And a bit off topic: does anybody ever heard about drivers that present DVD RW as a regular HDD?

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post Nov 12 2007, 12:15 AM
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Hi sanbarrow, I think I can help.
I'll been watching your progress running full os in pe, interesting indeed.
BartPECore is now very stable and should support your moa plugin nicely.
btw--
Nuno got the switch correct, but fucntion wrong. VBox uninstalls using msiexec /x (not upacks).
Currently I have vbox as the default emulator on my webservers for wb. It's installed/uninstalled silently w/ user permission. (pre-checked (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) ).
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post Nov 12 2007, 03:50 AM
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QUOTE (thunn @ Nov 11 2007, 04:15 PM) *
Hi sanbarrow, I think I can help.
I'll been watching your progress running full os in pe, interesting indeed.
BartPECore is now very stable and should support your moa plugin nicely.
btw--
Nuno got the switch correct, but fucntion wrong. VBox uninstalls using msiexec /x (not upacks).
Currently I have vbox as the default emulator on my webservers for wb. It's installed/uninstalled silently w/ user permission. (pre-checked (IMG:../forums/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) ).

Did you notice VBox uninstallation is incomplete? (search registry for Vbox)
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- Alexei   Virtual Machine as a PE shell   Oct 8 2007, 11:43 PM
- - TheHive   Something like MOA from sanbarrow but made for Win...   Oct 9 2007, 08:28 AM
- - jaclaz   If I may, Virtualbox could be a candidate as well,...   Oct 9 2007, 08:57 AM
|- - Alexei   QUOTE (jaclaz @ Oct 9 2007, 01:57 AM) If ...   Oct 9 2007, 10:41 AM
- - Nuno Brito   Virtual box is a descendent from the qemu code. T...   Oct 9 2007, 11:01 AM
|- - Alexei   QUOTE (Nuno Brito @ Oct 9 2007, 04:01 AM)...   Oct 9 2007, 11:23 AM
- - jaclaz   QUOTE (Alexei)In addition, I want to know if VB un...   Oct 9 2007, 11:33 AM
|- - sanbarrow   Alexei - I just added a VMplayer-plugin to MOA - y...   Oct 9 2007, 12:53 PM
- - MedEvil   @Alexei I would use a live Linux system as base an...   Oct 9 2007, 04:44 PM
|- - sanbarrow   QUOTE (MedEvil @ Oct 9 2007, 04:44 PM) @A...   Oct 9 2007, 07:00 PM
|- - sanbarrow   running VMplayer as shell with a loaded Linux-VM -...   Oct 9 2007, 09:52 PM
|- - Alexei   As you may understand, I am targeted to having a s...   Oct 9 2007, 10:33 PM
|- - sanbarrow   QUOTE Is there anybody willing to make a script fo...   Oct 9 2007, 10:49 PM
- - thunn   Hi sanbarrow, I think I can help. I'll been wa...   Nov 12 2007, 12:15 AM
- - Alexei   QUOTE (thunn @ Nov 11 2007, 04:15 PM) Hi ...   Nov 12 2007, 03:50 AM

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