Ubuntu 8.10 Persistant + Grub4dos External links Options

[Christian]

Hey all,

Hoping someone can help me get Ubuntu 8.10 running properly on my USB drive using grub4dos. I am able to start Ubuntu but not able to save any sessions? Here's my code:

CODE

find --set-root /casper/vmlinuz
kernel /casper/vmlinuz file=preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper console-setup/variantcode=nodeadkeys quiet splash --
initrd /casper/initrd.gz

I know the entries from 8.04 don't work any more, as the "persistent" changes are now stored inside a loop file instead of a seperate partition. I would be incredibly thankful for anyone that can help.

[was_jaclaz]

More generally, what are the entries in whatever is used in Ubuntu in its "default" install routine?

According to this:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-810-pe...l-from-live-cd/

The configuration file is this one:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/u810/text.cfg

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default persist
label persist
  menu label ^Run Ubuntu Persistently saving changes back to USB
  kernel /casper/vmlinuz
  append  file=/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper persistent initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --
label live
  menu label ^Try Ubuntu without saving any changes to USB
  kernel /casper/vmlinuz
  append  file=/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --
label live-install
  menu label ^Install Ubuntu
  kernel /casper/vmlinuz
  append  file=/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --
label check
  menu label ^Check CD for defects
  kernel /casper/vmlinuz
  append  boot=casper integrity-check initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --
label memtest
  menu label Test ^memory
  kernel /install/mt86plus
label hd
  menu label ^Boot from first hard disk
  localboot 0x80

A suitable grub4dos "translation" of persistent entry should be:

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title Run Ubuntu Persistently saving changes back to USB
kernel /casper/vmlinuz file=/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper persistent quiet splash --
initrd=/casper/initrd.gz

I am not so sure about the double minus sign at the end, maybe grub4dos parses it as a command.

DoUbLe ChEcK CaSe Of FiLeNaMeS.

As always, try first manually in command line mode.

Otherwise, backup bootsector, install syslinux, copy syslinux bootsector, restore previous bootsector, chainload syslinux bootsector file....

jaclaz

[orions]

Please forgive using the "borrowed account" from bugmenot, but I felt I had to offer some assistance while waiting for my own account to become active. T$unami

OK I am using Ubuntu 8.10 booting through grub4dos with persistent on my USB stick, my menu.lst looks like this;

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title Ubuntu 8.10 Live with persistent
find --set-root /casper/initrd.gz
kernel /casper/vmlinuz locale=gb preseed/locale=gb kbd-chooser/method=gb console-setup/layoutcode=gb boot=casper persistent rw splash
initrd /casper/initrd.gz
boot

Please note the inclusion of my prefered keyboard layout GB, to have it set back to the default use this instead;

CODE

title Ubuntu 8.10 Live with persistent
find --set-root /casper/initrd.gz
kernel /casper/vmlinuz boot=casper persistent rw splash
initrd /casper/initrd.gz
boot

Any how to use the persistent feature you require a file called casper-rw to be placed in the root of the usb stick
The file "casper-rw" can be ripped from;

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http://www.pendrivelinux.com/live-ubuntu-810-usb-persistent-install-windows/

in the file u810p.exe

Beware it is quite large 1.2gb, but it will give you storage to play within the Live environment on your USB stick. There is also a utility out there to create larger casper-rw files upto a max of 4gb with fat32.

Have fun

T$unami

[Christian]

Thanks Jaclaz & Orions!

I tried it again with same results... It will boot up fine but when I save a text file to the desktop and reboot, the file is gone. I did notice one thing though... When I try to access the USB drive(formatted with NTFS using Make_USB.exe) in Ubuntu, it pops up a message that it can not be accessed? The weird thing is that it can boot from it but is not able to read from the drive once the OS is up? I 'think' this might be the reason it's not saving the information to the drive but thats just my theory. I'm going to try and format it with FAT16(testing on a 2GB flash drive) and see if it works...Anyone try running Ubuntu 8.10 Live Persistent using NTFS?

in the file u810p.exe

Beware it is quite large 1.2gb, but it will give you storage to play within the Live environment on your USB stick. There is also a utility out there to create larger casper-rw files upto a max of 4gb with fat32.

I tried this method as well. which further lead me to believe its something with it being NTFS.

[orions]

Thanks Jaclaz & Orions!

I tried it again with same results... It will boot up fine but when I save a text file to the desktop and reboot, the file is gone. I did notice one thing though... When I try to access the USB drive(formatted with NTFS using Make_USB.exe) in Ubuntu, it pops up a message that it can not be accessed? The weird thing is that it can boot from it but is not able to read from the drive once the OS is up? I 'think' this might be the reason it's not saving the information to the drive but thats just my theory. I'm going to try and format it with FAT16(testing on a 2GB flash drive) and see if it works...Anyone try running Ubuntu 8.10 Live Persistent using NTFS?



I tried this method as well. which further lead me to believe its something with it being NTFS.

All I can say is that I'm using FAT32 on my 16gb, 8bg, and my 2gb stick with no problems, I may try ntfs tomorrow if I have the time.

goodluck

[Christian]

So apparently it doesn't matter if you use NTFS or FAT32 on the USB, you will still not be able to access the drive from within Ubuntu while logged in. I did however find that if it is formatted with FAT32, it will save your session. So I guess the real question is, How do you make a NTFS formatted usb drive save sessions in Live Ubuntu 8.10?

[was_jaclaz]

So I guess the real question is, How do you make a NTFS formatted usb drive save sessions in Live Ubuntu 8.10?

Well, no.

The real question is:
Is NTFS "completely supported in Ubuntu?

Or should some other cheat code added?

Or should the kernel rebuilt with some module enabled?

Or does the whatever init mount by default NTFS filesystems as R/O?

jaclaz

[Christian]

Well, no.

The real question is:
Is NTFS "completely supported in Ubuntu?

Or should some other cheat code added?

Or should the kernel rebuilt with some module enabled?

Or does the whatever init mount by default NTFS filesystems as R/O?

jaclaz

@ jaclaz That makes sense. I've been reading threw a bunch of forums but still haven't found a solution to this issue

Anyone able to successfully get Ubuntu 8.10 Persistent running smoothly on NTFS?

[capncurt7777]

sorry to revive this...any updates?

I recently bought an external 500gb Toshia 2.5" disk and was hoping to format it NTFS and have 9.04 or 9.10 persistent usb on it...

I can get it running fine, etc on NTFS - it just doesn't save the persistent changes to the casper-rw file...

Thanks