USB 2.0 + NTFS read/write under DOS, Achieved successfully ! External links Rating Options

[jezza333]

Well, things are looking fairly sweet at the moment. Last night I managed to find a different version of Iomega's aspiehci.sys, which, when installed after ntfspro is launched, both still work correctly. I am then able to map drives using di1000dd.sys without issues. [if I try to load ntfsdos AFTER the driver is installed, I get the same problem as before. Panasonic's usbaspi.sys [universal, supposedly the best] locks up/reboots my machine if I try this method]

So I have achieved what my initial objective was, and that's a very cool thing in itself, especially when things didn't want to work together [and using DOS after all ]. The two things now working under DOS, together are:

- USB 2.0 speeds
- NTFS read/write

I'm still very interested in getting into building PEs, but a little busy at the moment. I'll take a look and call on advice if [and when ] I need it. Cheers mate, you have been a massive help !

[was_jaclaz]

Care to share some info in this "particular" version of Iomega drivers?

Like version, where did you find it and so on?

Can you also confirm that aspiehci.sys is USB 2.0?

jaclaz

[jezza333]

Care to share some info in this "particular" version of Iomega drivers?

Like version, where did you find it and so on?

Well I grabbed it off a torrent with a ton of DOS boot materials in it [all legitimate though, no illegal business], and started testing all 8 or so drivers that were included in it. Most were USB 1.x, so I excluded them. The only one that works with NTFS software/drivers under DOS is aspiehci.sys [only from my testing]. For those interested, I don't know if it's the latest version, but it works and the other version I tested earlier took a long time to detect the drive and I couldn't map the FAT partitions on my USB drive [errors with the subsequent driver]

Here's its info: Iomega ASPI USB-EHCI 1.0 V.13 09 May 2003
Switches I used: /all /int

the /all switch is used to detect all USB drives possible, not just Iomega drives. Not sure what the /int switch is for, but it's used in the official config.sys in Iomega's bootdisk, so I've used it. The second driver [ASPI Storage block device driver/mapping drives to letters] is made by Motto Hairu [most peeps have never heard of them]. I can attach/upload them if you'd like me to

Can you also confirm that aspiehci.sys is USB 2.0?

Absolutely, the results between standard initialisation and using that driver are immense. I transferred 30MB in about 5-7 seconds from a NTFS partition as opposed to 4MB in about 25 seconds. Massive difference, and that's under DOS and using NTFS [which isn't native] with the default cache [which can be adjusted]

There are three standards compliant controllers in PC's. In Windows, Go to ControlPanel - System and (look under Hardware or DeviceManager to) examine the listed devices under Universal Serial Bus Controllers to determine the type of USB ports detected:

USB 1.x UHCI (Universal Host Controller Interface) Intel, VIA
USB 1.x OHCI (Open Host Controller Interface) Compaq, Microsoft and National Semiconductor
USB 2.x EHCI (Enhanced Host Controller Interface)

Source: http://jedlik.vein.hu:60080/dos/drivers/dosusb/readme.txt

[was_jaclaz]

Hmmmm, the 0.13 version is the one that ships (shipped) with SYMANTEC GHOST 2003, cannot say if it's available freely elsewhere.

It seems to be however part of this "multi-device" DOS CD:
http://vivil.free.fr/usbdosboot/
(Warning 56k users, the .iso is 42 Mb)


Good to know that it gives USB 2.0 speed.

jaclaz

[jezza333]

Hmmmm, the 0.13 version is the one that ships (shipped) with SYMANTEC GHOST 2003, cannot say if it's available freely elsewhere.

Why wouldn't it be? It's also available in the bootdisk.com USB boot collection according to their website; not to mention a ton of other sites on the internet - just varying versions

Good to know that it gives USB 2.0 speed.

Yep, excellent stuff. USBASPI.SYS also provides USB 2.0 speeds and is supposedly compatible with a larger number of drives, but isn't compatible with any of the DOS based NTFS drivers I've tried.

[Nuno Brito]

Would you make available this image?

These features sound awesome, I really like DOS and can't conform that people call it "old"..

Great work!

[jezza333]

Would you make available this image?

Would you like me to upload the drivers I have used and the order of execution? A ramdisk needs to be loaded and the drivers copied to the ramdisk [how can they be installed when the drive/files being referenced temporarily doesn't exist], then installed using ctload. I can upload or supply the URL of all the files needed if you wish

Not a problem either way.

[Nuno Brito]

I can upload or supply the URL of all the files needed if you wish

This would be great along with a small tutorial!

[jezza333]

Sure thing, I'll see what I can do.

EDIT: sorry, a little late, but here it is. I've made it easy enough to understand, even for the not-so-proficient PC user. Any 'baby talk' isn't meant to be offensive; I know you know a ton about this sort of field.

Let me know if I'm missing anything
Cheers.

EDIT: Updated the tutorial slightly... you can find it on the first post in this thread:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...ost&p=31969

[Nuno Brito]

Cool instructions, really liked the intro:

Gday there reader

Here are the [de/in]structions you need to create a bootable USB thumb drive..

(only found one typo: archiover)

Would you edit your first post on this topic to ease other people to find this good guide?

It was a very easy to follow tutorial.

Very good work!