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 VistaPE 008 + update 3, new version 02.04.2007 + update 3 (04.05.2007)
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post Apr 2 2007, 12:11 PM
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New version is out!

You can download it directly from latest WinBuilder (WB68)

History:
1. fixed network support
2. network configuration (PENetCFG)
3. faster booting process
4. small fix for shortcut
5. WSH/MDAC/HTA/WMI/XML support
6. WinBuilder 068 compatibility
7. other small fixes and updates for program

Update 1 (10.04.2007):
1. fixed WimUtil problem
2. fixed VirtualBox script
3. Infra Recorder updated
4. new wallpaper

Update 2 (20.04.2007):
updated scripts:
1. "Copy Files"
2. "Shell & Config"
3. "Xchm 1.9"
4. "FOXIT PDF Reader"

Update 3 (04.05.2007):
full WinBuilder 069 beta 4 compatible

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post Apr 2 2007, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (NightMan @ Apr 2 2007, 12:11 PM) *
New version is out!

You can download it directly from latest WinBuilder (WB68 Beta14)

History:
1. fixed network support
2. network configuration (PENetCFG)
3. faster booting process
4. small fix for shortcut
5. WSH/MDAC/HTA/WMI/XML support
6. WinBuilder 068 compatibility
7. other small fixes and updates for program

ps all documentation on my site has been updated

cheers.gif


Getting errors when trying to do a download. I am at work but wonder if Winbuilder is using IE's proxy settings or not? If not why not and why not give an option to use proxy or not.
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post Apr 2 2007, 04:04 PM
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Well, I must say that I do not understand the passion people have for packing everything into the script file.

LiteStep is now all compressed into a 7Z archive. That means that, in order to get more than one column of icons on the desktop (which I consider a bug) I have to extract the 7Z file, extract desktop_icons_9x.rc from that, edit it, put it back into the archive ... oops, 7-Zip 4.42 (the most recent release) will not add the modified file back into the folder from whence it came. I have to extract the entire archive, make that one change, and re-create the archive from scratch, and then re-encode it back into the script file.

Oh, I might want to make a few customizations ... so I am going to keep those extracted files somewhere. Now I'm using the disk space for the script and the disk space for the extracted files. And whenever I want to make a change I have a couple of extra steps to go through.

I can see stuffing static files into the script file. I do not see any advantage, indeed I see severe disadvantages, in stuffing files that will be modified into the script file, and stuffing them into an archive before stuffing them into the script file is worse.

Here in the U.S. I can get 500 GB SATA-1 disks for US$120. That is under 50 cents per gigabyte for high (not highest) performance). I understand that prices are different elsewhere, but I think they are not so different as to make my mantra incorrect:

Hard disk space is free. Anything that reduces hard disk space usage at the expense of any inconvenience, no matter how slight, is false economy.
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post Apr 2 2007, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (JonF @ Apr 2 2007, 08:04 PM) *
Well, I must say that I do not understand the passion people have for packing everything into the script file.


1. it's better way when downloading it directly from WinBuilder
2. unset "Delete work folder" and run script, than you will be have unpacked LiteStep and can change anything, all is very simple smile.gif
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post Apr 2 2007, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE (JonF @ Apr 2 2007, 06:04 PM) *
Hard disk space is free. Anything that reduces hard disk space usage at the expense of any inconvenience, no matter how slight, is false economy.

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Now my problems with this release:
Let me tell first that I'm (as described at other places) not a friend of Vista. I think I'll never(?) use it.
I did the download just to test.
BTW @Nuno: I do not like the percentages in the 'Download' tab
My equipment: XP SP2 (German) on P4 2,4 GB with 1 GB of RAM; installed WAIK (German).
WB BaseDir (with spaces in the name) on the start volume C: which is a NTFS volume.
  • Download the Vista project
  • Set path to my installed WAIK
  • Run the project
  • Avast gave me a virus warning. Because I know about a false positive, I hit the STOP button, stopped Avast: Then I was waiting for the script to come back. I had to kill WB by taskmanager in order to restart.
  • On restart WB I got
    Attached Image
  • Deleted the complete Vista project folder
  • Tried to delete custom, temp, target, ISO folders: Error message that they are hold by something
  • Reboot
  • Delete the above folders
  • Download the Vista project again
  • Set path to my installed WAIK
  • Run the project, this time with Avast switched off
  • During 'Finalize' I had the opinion that the system hangs. It needs 'endless' time.
    But there was the nice(?) animation of arrows coming from right and left to 'Documents'
  • After finishing all, nothing happened
  • As an experienced user, I tried to start the ISO at VirtualBox
    What does an unexperienced user do: Maybe he waits for ever ...
    And what about a user who does not have VirtualPC installed?
  • After chosing the very first boot otion, after several seconds I saw a new, a little bit coloured background
  • This background became black after a while
  • I waited
  • I waited
  • I waited
  • After about 5 minutes of waiting I switched off the VirtualBox
Result: For my German XP SP2 NTFS contellationh unusable.

BTW: That is not a confrontation against NightMan and other authors. They did a great ingenier's job.
This is just a conclusion about Bill G's product.

Peter


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post Apr 2 2007, 06:19 PM
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Minor issue: The PDFREader script creates an empty folder named in some character set I don't have, as a subfolder of PDFReader, even though I have East Asian Language Support un-checked. Mkisofs doesn't like it:

CODE
mkisofs: No such file or directory. Non-existent or inaccessible: E:\WinBuilder\
Target\VistaPE/Programs/PDFReader/--+┐+-+ª+-


No harm done, but it's inelegant.
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post Apr 2 2007, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE (NightMan @ Apr 2 2007, 02:10 PM) *
1. it's better way when downloading it directly from WinBuilder
2. unset "Delete work folder" and run script, than you will be have unpacked LiteStep and can change anything, all is very simple smile.gif

OK, that seems good; I did not understand how to do that.

I suggest that the default for "delete work folder" should be False.
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post Apr 2 2007, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE (psc @ Apr 2 2007, 02:14 PM) *
  • Tried to delete custom, temp, target, ISO folders: Error message that they are hold by something
  • Reboot

Unlocker.
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post Apr 2 2007, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (psc @ Apr 2 2007, 10:14 PM) *
thumbsup.gif

Now my problems with this release:

BTW @Nuno: I do not like the percentages in the 'Download' tab

i not like it too wink.gif

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My equipment: XP SP2 (German) on P4 2,4 GB with 1 GB of RAM; installed WAIK (German).
WB BaseDir (with spaces in the name) on the start volume C: which is a NTFS volume.[list]
[*]Download the Vista project
[*]Set path to my installed WAIK
[*]Run the project


by default project optimized for Vista DVD without WAIK, but it's may not work on all system (not work with x64, may be more), open "Shell & Config" and select "imagex"...

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[*]Avast gave me a virus warning. Because I know about a false positive, I hit the STOP button, stopped Avast: Then I was waiting for the script to come back. I had to kill WB by taskmanager in order to restart.


VistaPE try install and use WIM driver...

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[*]After finishing all, nothing happened


you have iso file wink.gif

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[*]As an experienced user, I tried to start the ISO at VirtualBox
What does an unexperienced user do: Maybe he waits for ever ...
And what about a user who does not have VirtualPC installed?


when qEmu will be support Vista, support will be added smile.gif

(VistaPE only for admins and power users and user must understand what and for what hi doing smile.gif)

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[*]After chosing the very first boot otion, after several seconds I saw a new, a little bit coloured background
[*]This background became black after a while
[*]I waited
[*]I waited
[*]I waited
[*]After about 5 minutes of waiting I switched off the VirtualBox


sorry, you must have background with VistaPE logo, console window with startup information and then PE Shel Swapper... try add more memory to your VirtualPC and send log to me smile.gif


QUOTE
BTW: That is not a confrontation against NightMan and other authors. They did a great ingenier's job.
This is just a conclusion about Bill G's product.


hm... may be create modular live Linux and make it from WinBuilder?

JonF
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I did not understand how to do that.

hm... i not understand what you not understand, sorry sad.gif
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post Apr 2 2007, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE (NightMan @ Apr 2 2007, 02:46 PM) *
hm... i not understand what you not understand, sorry sad.gif

I did not realize that un-checking "Delete work folder" would leave extracted files in the folder to which they were extracted, and use those extracted files as the source in the future. The meaning and significance of "work folder" is not obvious. Unfortunately, I do not have a better phrase.
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