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[jeroentuin]

hello everybody,

i'm a bit in a problem. i want to install xp on my HDD via my usb. so i put WIN98se bootdisk on my stick (with HPutil)
i ripped the whole (original) XPSP2 cd en copied it to my stick(flash stick btw)
set usb on top in sequence.
it boots, i come in the dos screen with C:\>
i started up fdisk and found out that i had to partition my HDD
So i did.(as primary)
but it became D:\
when i run WINNT.EXE it wil try to install on my USB:S:S

now how can I manage that my HDD will become my C:\ or how can I manage to install XP on D: (tried xcopy command)

thnx,
Jeroentuin

[Lancelot]

Just an idea:

create a Fat32 primary partition on hd and make it DOS bootable with i guess sys D:
than copy xp files to your hd, lets say D:\xpsetup

than boot with your hd, it will boot to dos, than C:\xpsetup etc..

also after xp setup finishes you can use "convert" command to convert fat32 to ntfs. google-fu: convert ntfs

Good luck

[jeroentuin]

how can i make my hdd bootable in dos??

and if i manage to do that than how will i get my files on my hdd, because the xcopy command isn't working.

btw: thnx4replieing

[was_jaclaz]

Installing through WINNT.EXE, though doable , is considered a bit "old fashion" nowadays.

However, here is a step-by-step (almost) procedure :
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...=16713&st=1

A missing step in the above is the (optional but useful) usage of SMARTDRV, which is however detailed in first post:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...=16713&st=0

The "most current method" is one of the three available here :
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showforum=157

Batch:
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=111406

GUI (advised):
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=120444

From a PE (more flexible, but more complex):
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=121446

Your choice.



jaclaz

[Lancelot]

Hi jeroentuin

Reminding jaclaz is the master of the boot, I advice you to follow his advices.

how can i make my hdd bootable in dos??

already written on my post with "sys d:"
Also jacklazz link http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...=16713&st=1 (look post #2) gives the method (i did not wrote a method) to create fat32 partition with using fdisk + format which results with using "format d: /s" (post #2 step 7) that makes again bootable dos... Well all ways goes to Istanbul .
ps: optional usage of smartdrv makes your setup faster with this old fashioned method i liked to use.

to make xcopy command work, you need xcopy.exe on your ufd. a bit google-fu should help. Check http://boot-land.net/url/bootdisk


@jaclaz

a little question about "from PE" method. I love wimb's tools, but never used for booting "from PE".
Instead I use LiveXP with following steps:
1) prepare partition primary/ntfs/active,
2) than set partition drive letter to C:\
3) copy xp setup(cd) to C:\xpsetup
4) than doubleclick C:\xpsetup\i386\winnt32.exe

so far method working nicely, am I missing sth ?

edit: mini adding

[jeroentuin]

@ jaclaz

i am totally new in the bootable scene:$, so ....

which one will give me the least change to failure:P

[was_jaclaz]

@ jaclaz

i am totally new in the bootable scene:$, so ....

which one will give me the least change to failure:P

The "most current method" is one of the three available here :
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showforum=157

Batch:
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=111406

GUI (advised):
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=120444

From a PE (more flexible, but more complex):
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=121446

JFYI:
http://ccollomb.free.fr/blog/?p=59

Reminding jaclaz is the master of the boot, I advice you to follow his advices.

Though of course your recommendation is appreciated , I am failing to see ANY alternative he may follow....

@jaclaz

a little question about "from PE" method. I love wimb's tools, but never used for booting "from PE".
Instead I use LiveXP with following steps:
1) prepare partition primary/ntfs/active,
2) than set partition drive letter to C:\
3) copy xp setup(cd) to C:\xpsetup
4) than doubleclick C:\xpsetup\i386\winnt32.exe

so far method working nicely, am I missing sth ?

Who knows what you may be missing?

The whole point of Wimb's method (the "from PE" one):

From a PE (more flexible, but more complex):
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=121446

is to help in creating a bootable USB running a "standard" LiveXP (as per Amalux's Tutorials), and further help in adding additions, like Drivers Pack and similar + a whole lot more things, the latter ones being symptoms of the "featuritis", a common syndrome among developers, from which Wimb also suffers.

Since you already know:

• how to make a bootable USB stick
• how to build a LiveXP
• how to add additions

You should have NO "need" for using it, though you might want to try it at next occasion (as opposed to ask philosophical questions about it ) and actually time the install, and see whether the method "keeping source files on stick" is faster than first copying source to target and then run WINNT32.EXE.



jaclaz

P.S.: Corrected links to point directly to post #2:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...=16713&st=1
and to post #1:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...=16713&st=0
on the referenced thread.

[psc]

+ a whole lot more things, the latter ones being symptoms of the "featuritis", a common syndrome among developers,

Jaclaz, please consider to exlude me from the featuritis club.
You know that I hate interfaces with many options (wich in most cases are ununderstandable for new users). And remember my (successless) trials about 'factory settings' in LiveXP.

But you are the master and I'll follow your judgement ...

Peter

[was_jaclaz]

Jaclaz, please consider to exlude me from the featuritis club.

, I seem to remember you know a bit of Latin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_officio#E

excusatio non petita accusatio manifesta

I didn't previously include your name in the "little black book" where I keep note of people obviously affected by the Syndrome, but now I'm putting an entry for you on the page with the big red question mark as a header....



jaclaz

[psc]

, I seem to remember you know a bit of Latin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_officio#E


I didn't previously include your name in the "little black book" where I keep note of people obviously affected by the Syndrome, but now I'm putting an entry for you on the page with the big red question mark as a header....



jaclaz

And RED means 'Never can become member'

Peter