Hello dear guest!

Boot Land is a community driven site established since 2006 and focused on data recovery/backup boot disks, research of Windows 2000/XP/2003/Vista/7 install/deployment/antivirus tools, customizing Windows PE systems and even learning how to recover from disaster situations.

How about joining our boot disk community? So do it. Life's short!

  - You get free access to our newsletter with all the interesting buzz about boot disks
  - We share publicity revenue with everyone who wishes to participate at the forums
  - Publicity is never, never, never displayed to members (along with many other cool things)
http://boot-land.net/register

2 Pages V  < 1 2 >  
Reply to this topic
 Unable to load image files
post Nov 15 2007, 11:44 AM
Post #9
was_jaclaz
Finder   ******
Group: Advanced user

  Joined: 14-July 06 From: Gone in the mist

Posts: 7,224
Thank(s): 547


Italy


QUOTE (ickleric)
Where is it trying to load it files from??

The NTLDR can boot TWO kinds of "things":
1) an "ARCPATH" pointing to a valid NT/2K/XP/2003 install
2) a bootsector

BOOTPART simply creates a bootsector using the "loading" code of the various Operating Systems and the "address and geometry" data from current (booted from) bootsector.

For DOS 6.22, as said, IO.SYS must be the FIRST file on partition, followed by MSDOS.SYS, and partition type MUST be 06 (BIGDOS).

About DOS files you DO NOT "put them in the ROOT", you let the HP utility do that for you (or the SYS command).

If anything has changed on the position of the file, or if you changed somehow the partition type, DOS 6.22 will not boot anymore.

You DID NOT run w00t.gif:
QUOTE
mkbt -x pe2usb.bin e:

after or during the procedure I outlined, did you? unsure.gif

For DOS 6.22, you need to use BOOTPART (booted from a floppy image) like this:
CODE
BOOTPART REWRITEROOT:C:

(see bootpart's readme.txt for explanation)

Try again with DOS 7.1 files (you have them in your Win98.ima), extract them to a directory and "feed" them to the HP USB utility when formatting the stick, they should have no problems with a "0E" partition.

In some cases, it might be needed to completely "wipe" the first, say, 100 sectors of the stick, before using the HP USB utility (and then disconnect and re-connect the stick, before using it).

You can use a disk editor to "0 fill" the first 100 sectors on stick, or use this procedure, using tools from the DSFOK toolkit:
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nulifetv/freezip/freeware/

fsz 51200 J:\0file100sectors.dat

(this will create a file 51200 bytes in length filles with digital "00"s on drive J: - a partition on your Hard Disk).

dsfi \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE2 0 0 J:\0file100sectors.dat

PHYSICALDRIVEs are numbered from 0, so if you have just one Hard disk, it will be PHYSICALDRIVE0, and the stick will be PHYSICALDRIVE1
if you have 2 hard disks, they will be PHYSICALDRIVE0 and PHYSICALDRIVE1
and the stick will be PHYSICALDRIVE2

Be VERY careful, you could WIPE another drive by mistake!



jaclaz


--------------------
+Quote Post
post Nov 15 2007, 12:10 PM
Post #10
ickleric
Newbie   *
Group: Members

  Joined: 9-November 07
Posts: 10
Thank(s): 0


United Kingdom


when i run bootpart it, this is what mine looks like after formating with HP utility and pointing it to dos files:

Physical number of disk 0 : 23ff4149
0 : C:* type=e (Win95 XInt 13), size= 1018592 KB, Lba Pos 63

Is this an issue???
+Quote Post
post Nov 15 2007, 12:24 PM
Post #11
ickleric
Newbie   *
Group: Members

  Joined: 9-November 07
Posts: 10
Thank(s): 0


United Kingdom


Right i tried doing what you said and used Win98se as feed files.

It now works loading DOS from the GRUB4dos menu. Still doesn't work from the boot.ini menu. But at least it works.

Thanks for all your help. Now what i was hoping to do it load the network boot disk (from www.netbootdisk.com) once i had DOS loaded. I have copied the files across including the autoexec.bat and config.sys. But it fails straight away. Anyone managed to get this working this way???
+Quote Post
post Nov 15 2007, 12:31 PM
Post #12
was_jaclaz
Finder   ******
Group: Advanced user

  Joined: 14-July 06 From: Gone in the mist

Posts: 7,224
Thank(s): 547


Italy


QUOTE (ickleric @ Nov 15 2007, 01:10 PM) *
when i run bootpart it, this is what mine looks like after formating with HP utility and pointing it to dos files:

Physical number of disk 0 : 23ff4149
0 : C:* type=e (Win95 XInt 13), size= 1018592 KB, Lba Pos 63

Is this an issue???


Yes, it is, the "type=e (Win95 Xint 13)" translates to "0E" or LBA FAT 16 filesystem, making use of eXtended int 13.

Such a filesystem will not be accessible/bootable with/from DOS 6.22, as it was developed AFTER the release of the Operating System, the first "DOS" able to use that kind of partition is DOS 7.10, the one that came with windows 95 OSR 2.0.

Do read FAQ's here:
http://home.graffiti.net/jaclaz:graffiti.n...SB/USBfaqs.html
and this:
http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html


As said, try using Windows 98 DOS files, you should have no problems with them, but you might also need unsure.gif to use the LBA switch of BOOTPART:
CODE
BOOTPART Win98 LBA C:\BOOTSECT.W98 "Win98 DOS"


jaclaz



--------------------
+Quote Post
post Nov 15 2007, 12:56 PM
Post #13
was_jaclaz
Finder   ******
Group: Advanced user

  Joined: 14-July 06 From: Gone in the mist

Posts: 7,224
Thank(s): 547


Italy


@ickleric

Sorry, cross-posting....

QUOTE
Now what i was hoping to do it load the network boot disk (from www.netbootdisk.com) once i had DOS loaded.


You mean you BUILT a network boot floppy from the downloaded files?

Read this:
http://www.netbootdisk.com/usb_netbootdisk_berrytencaat.doc

jaclaz


--------------------
+Quote Post
post Nov 16 2007, 12:10 PM
Post #14
ickleric
Newbie   *
Group: Members

  Joined: 9-November 07
Posts: 10
Thank(s): 0


United Kingdom


I managed to get the netbootdisk working in the end. For some reason i had to swap the IO.SYS file for another version ass when it loaded the boot disk menu it kept freezing the screen (strange). Also had to add the himem.sys file to the root and edit the config.sys and remove the REM for loading the himem.sys.

So i have now got my USB Pen drive with grub4dos boot menu so i can either load WinPE or Netbootdisk. (just as i wanted)

Thanks for all your help.
+Quote Post
post Nov 16 2007, 12:41 PM
Post #15
was_jaclaz
Finder   ******
Group: Advanced user

  Joined: 14-July 06 From: Gone in the mist

Posts: 7,224
Thank(s): 547


Italy


QUOTE (ickleric @ Nov 16 2007, 01:10 PM) *
I managed to get the netbootdisk working in the end. For some reason i had to swap the IO.SYS file for another version ass when it loaded the boot disk menu it kept freezing the screen (strange). Also had to add the himem.sys file to the root and edit the config.sys and remove the REM for loading the himem.sys.

So i have now got my USB Pen drive with grub4dos boot menu so i can either load WinPE or Netbootdisk. (just as i wanted)

Thanks for all your help.


Happy everything went well. smile.gif

Maybe, just maybe, you could try using the Dos 8.0 (Windows ME) that "calls internally" HIMEM.SYS:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=16745
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...16745&st=13

jaclaz


--------------------
+Quote Post

2 Pages V  < 1 2 >
Reply to this topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic ()


  

Collapse

  Topic Replies Topic Starter Views Last Action
No new tool to track install wanted!
31 MedEvil 4,735 3rd February 2010 - 11:43 AM
Last post by: m4dm4Xz
No New Posts loading grub4dos through pxelinux
10 giorgosg 1,416 27th January 2010 - 08:51 AM
Last post by: Wonko the Sane
No new Topic has attachmentsFiles on "Desktop"
need to copy files to Desktop
24 Decent 2,128 14th December 2009 - 10:37 AM
Last post by: Galapo
No New Posts Tons of Wifi and NIC drivers?
5 Burner727 941 26th November 2009 - 12:56 AM
Last post by: Lancelot
No New Posts Too slow to mount wim on Win7
8 Zhang Heng 1,070 25th November 2009 - 02:09 PM
Last post by: Zhang Heng